Comment on Why are Maries Sues hated while Gary Stus are loved?
spacecadet@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
You picked Batman as an example? The guy whose parents died, then he uses the vast wealth to learn and buy gadgets no one else can afford to fight crime. He constantly gets beaten right off the bat (pardon the pun) and his whole arc is to use his intellect to learn from his mistakes to do better after he fails and people get hurt. He is liked because in a world where everyone has some weird super power he is just a guy dedicated to making sure children don’t have their parents killed, too. He has a moral compass and a vision and we constantly see him fall down and get back up. A lot of the issues people had with Superman (an actual Gary Stu) were rectified with Batman. Debates on his vigilantism have made him both a loved and hated character. The question is constantly asked if he might be doing more harm than good. He has doubts and questions himself, he makes mistakes, he isn’t universally loved, he is no where near a Gary or Mary Sue.
Hickak@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If someone created a female character with the same story she would be called Marie Sue. Suddenly a woman loses her parents and becomes a billionaire and uses the money to fight crime. They would s. ay thOne at is not realistic.
Yes, Superman is also Gary Stu. Since you have a problem with the Batman example, then I’ll use superman. Why do people tend to love characters like Gary Stu as Superman and hate female characters who are considered Marie Sue?
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And I hate Superman for that reason.
The hate on Captain Marvel was a bit over the top, but the movie was mid at best. So it didn’t deserve praise, but didn’t deserve the vitriol of fragile dudes either. Just for me it wasn’t good for the same reason Superman wasn’t good.