Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US?
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 days agoIt’s a perfectly fine example and I answered it directly. I just think it was especially chosen to be a worker on the lower end, at a notoriously inhumane employer, in order to present a challenge to me in showing how that person could possibly be benefitting from the US dominated world order. But that’s fine. Better than fine, because I still had a direct and completely valid answer to how America’s global empire benefits that person. If anything, that example helped me, because if there’s an answer for Amazon warehouse workers, then there’s pretty much an answer for everybody.
And my answer has fine completely ignored while we all, me included, bitch about whether it’s a cherry picked case. It doesn’t matter.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
You fucking liar. I responded to your answer and completely refuted it, you failed to acknowlede my counterarguments whatsoever, blindly declaring that you had “won” just because you responded to my question at all.
You are so incredibly privileged to think that Amazon was cherry picked. I chose it because it’s one of the largest employers, and because I worked there. And as a matter of fact, it was better than the jobs I had previously. There are a lot of people in this country making a lot less money than Amazon workers, but you can’t even imagine it.
God, I hope you find up on the receiving end of what you support so bad. You deserve it.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m going to ignore your profanity and ad hominems again (you are very angry and that’s not my problem) and actually move on to why I say that every American is helped by American empire.
I’m seeing a lot of uninformed fools welcome the end of the US led order, saying, not unlike you that who cares - it only helps the wealthy. This is foolish and arrogant and naive.
Every Amazon warehouse worker owns a phone assembled by impoverished Asian hands, and one of the reasons the phones flow one direction and the poverty flows the other is American dominance and the dominance of the dollar particularly.
You think I’m privileged because I’m not a warehouse worker but I’m saying the warehouse workers of the US are still privileged by global standards, and absolutely stand to lose that privilege when American empire ends. You’re so intent to cry your narrative about the wealthy of the US lording over the rest of the US that you ignore the fact we’re all privileged.
Maybe we all should lose that and that’s all for the best. I don’t know of any reason we should be so anointed. But it’s the height of stupid self pity to bleat that you don’t care if the dollar crashes because the ruling class! As long as you’re paid in dollars, you have a lot to lose here.
To sum up: maybe you have more in common with the ruling class than you think. Maybe you’re throwing stones inside a glass house. This is why you’re so angry, I think: because you clutch the narrative SO tightly that you’re actually the embattled underdog, when 90% of the people in this world would kill to be in your shoes. Im an immigrant’s kid, not a billionaire fascist you complete buffoon.
But hey I’m just an aspiring fascist (???) billionaire so what do I know, right? An
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
At no point did I ever claim you were a billionaire (lying again), you obviously aren’t. You’re just a dumbass who licks their boots because you’ve accepted their lies and propaganda that their interests are yours.
You are arguing that we should ignore class interests in favor or national interests, which is nationalism and nonsense. Workers in the first world may be less exploited than workers in other countries, but we are still exploited. We produce more than we take. And our purchasing power has been plummetting thanks to the things you support, and the rich are constantly working towards hastening that decline.
If we ended both American hegemony in the world and capitalist exploitation, workers would be better off. If we only ended American hegemony, we would still be better off because it’s public funds that go into projects like Afghanistan and private corporations that reap the benefits. And again, the rich being richer doesn’t ‘trickle down’ to us in any way, what it does do is empower them relative to us, granting them more ability to suppress wages and cause conditions to decline.
Thank you for finally at least acknowledging the fact that I responded to your answer instead of lying about it like you’ve been doing.