Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US?
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days agoAnd in the meantime, their tax money has to go to support it, and the military equipment that’s produced for the war is brought home and given to police, where it can be used against protests and labor organizing. All in the name of “cheaper foreign goods,” which also means that it won’t be as profitable to produce goods domestically. Fucking Reaganite, supply side economics.
“BOOM!” wow you really owned me, yeah you really showed me how stupid I am for thinking we shouldn’t kill millions of random brown people in the Middle East. Calling neoliberals like you the moderate wing of fascism is being way too generous, you’re literally just fascists.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Got me, I’m the CEO of Raytheon. Yes, in fact, you were completely owned. And yes, in fact, an Amazon worker is a loaded representation of “the people.” But that’s fine, because I already pointed out how the impoverished continue to risk life and limb to come here for even worse jobs than that. Do you want to argue about whether your example was cherry picked, so you can continue to ignore how thoroughly it was put down?
MortUS@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Is it? Amazon and Walmart are the 2 biggest employers in the U.S. Like, there’s a big Walmart in almost every meaningful city or town, and on the outskirts of that town are usually Amazon Warehouses.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s a perfectly fine example and I answered it directly. I just think it was especially chosen to be a worker on the lower end, at a notoriously inhumane employer, in order to present a challenge to me in showing how that person could possibly be benefitting from the US dominated world order. But that’s fine. Better than fine, because I still had a direct and completely valid answer to how America’s global empire benefits that person. If anything, that example helped me, because if there’s an answer for Amazon warehouse workers, then there’s pretty much an answer for everybody.
And my answer has fine completely ignored while we all, me included, bitch about whether it’s a cherry picked case. It doesn’t matter.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
You fucking liar. I responded to your answer and completely refuted it, you failed to acknowlede my counterarguments whatsoever, blindly declaring that you had “won” just because you responded to my question at all.
You are so incredibly privileged to think that Amazon was cherry picked. I chose it because it’s one of the largest employers, and because I worked there. And as a matter of fact, it was better than the jobs I had previously. There are a lot of people in this country making a lot less money than Amazon workers, but you can’t even imagine it.
God, I hope you find up on the receiving end of what you support so bad. You deserve it.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
You are not the CEO of Raytheon, you’re a smug petite-bourgeois who stupidly thinks your interests have more in common with the CEO of Raytheon than with the people of Afghanistan.
It absolutely is not. It’s an extremely common job.
It wasn’t put down at all, least of all not thoroughly. You just act like it was because you’re a smug asshole who thinks you’re better than everyone because you align with the “smart” establishment, completely ignoring actual material and class interests.
scarabic@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Ah and now with the name calling. And yeah you tried to argue more about the Amazon worker being a cherry pick when it doesn’t matter at all.
Listen kid, I’m all for not killing brown people by the millions too. I’m glad we agree on that.
Where we don’t agree, and where you’ve been utterly put in your place beyond question, is on the topic of whether only CEOs benefit from American empire. All Americans do. Period. That’s the only topic here. Me saying it’s now closed is not smugness: it’s a fact. You can call me more names if it makes you feel better.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
The level of smugness is completely off the charts.
You literally didn’t respond to any of my counterarguments at all. Not a single word. All you did was lay out an opening position and instantly declare victory, over and over.
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If you support American imperialism, then yes you are. You can pretend to have a problem with the more grotesque elements necessary to maintain your goals all you like, your criticism is purely rhetorical, and even then extremely soft.