Comment on What are the exact ramifications and consequences of the recent meeting with Zelenskyy and Trump/JD?

• humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It is so disturbing and shameful that people are walk around thinking this war was unprovoked. If that can’t be changed, you can still wake up and realize that pursuing failure would be stupid.

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  • militaryintelligence@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Do tell, how did Ukraine provoke the invasion?

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It was a joint US/Ukraine provocation for sure. First, Ukraine’s nazification rule started with US coup in 2014, and US controlled IMF sabotaging/making Yanukovych’s EU trade deal impossible. US/west’s insincere participation in Russia’s peaceful attempt to deal with Ukrainian nazification and hostilities towards Russians, the Minsk accords, was an insincere delay tactic to arm Ukraine. The Apartheid laws against ethnic Russians, and US arming of nazi paramilitaries that killed over 5000 in Donbas since 2014. US’s open door NATO policy for Ukraine membership, and plans for missile bases there, together with ramp up of Donbas terrorism and no talks with Russia in early 2022, forced Russia’s SMO. The concerted western propaganda disrespecting Russia on its security is clear direct proof of evil intentions behind the provocation of the “desirable” war, named “a strategic US imperative (for it to continue indefinitely)” as well.

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        lol did the FSB give you this script? That’s like, every single one of Putin’s talking points, which are more or less complete horseshit

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