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• Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Both parties, in an attempt to win back AFD voters, are doing more and more of their anti immigrant politics. If you watch any political debates on TV, most of what they talk about is just who wants to deport the most immigrants and who reduced immigration the most.

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  • Terces@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks for the clarification. I would even say that I mostly agree with the sentiment. Immigration has been a pointless discussion for years now and I think no party (except the AFD) actually profited from it. SPD and die Grünen have both failed to disspell the AFD narrative.

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  SPD is just standing by not doing anything (except being corrupt), basically silent complicity. The greens are also not clearly positioning themselves against the anti immigrant hatred, but they are still doing much better than the rest imo.

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  • Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I agree with you on the SPD, but Habeck was pretty fucking clear that Abschiebung is not the way to go. The Linke on the other hand seems great until you see their position on NATO, rearmament, Russia, and Ukraine…

    My dad literally voted for Volt instead of Grüne because “the Grüne was to positive about immigration”

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I see peoples issues with the linke as largely unimportant. Having 9% of the seats taken by nato critical people is a healthy contra to the overwhelming majority that would never dare to criticize their sometimes criticism worthy decisions. If you never have anyone looking at things from an outside perspective the governement will lose touch with reality.

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      • Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Fair enough. While I myself wouldn’t vote for them, I do agree that they are by no means evil. Their position certainly may even be valuable, I concede. I don’t want my preferred party (the Grüne) to be the most radical left party, it’s always good to have an even more left party to balance things out. We don’t want to end up like the US, where even moderate thing like universal healthcare are viewed as radical in the state. Democracy serves it’s purpose. In other words: you’ve pretty much convinced me (though I would still vote Grüne).

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    • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Correctly but, me who is supporting both volt and grüne and even is joining volt in summer, but with volts goal of a united europe,…that seems pretty pro immigration. Not to mention also them wanting easier immigration.

      Does your dad know something i dont?

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      • Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s just stigma against the Grüne; hypocrisy at its purest. In other words: I don’t think he actually cares about immigration, he was just using it as a scapegoat.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What should the SPD be doing?

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Behave like social democrats, push to fund infrastructure and school upgrades (instead of defunding them), not have a leading candidate that was involved with the biggest tax fraud scheme in recent history, etc

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I nisunderstood, I thought you were calling them to do something about AfD more directly.

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