Comment on An admin deleted all my uploads and I have no clue why
GoldenCow@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you filter modlog by username you will discover that one lemmy.world admin banned you most likely using the “remove content” option thinking you were a spammer and a second lemmy.world admin restored your posts however the images most likely were lost even though the post wasd restored.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That would be really fucked up. Do you know if this is this a common “practice” on lemmy? They obviously did not even look at my posts before deleting them because they where clearly comic art images posted in a community dedicated to exactly this kind of material. I put quite some work and time into those posts and I won´t continue contributing if abusive admins on a power trip will just arbitralily wipe my stuff “accidentially” whenever they feel like.
Kichae@kbin.social 11 months ago
You've jumped to a lot of conclusions here.
You're using a website that's operated by volunteers, that's seen a ton of abuse from spammers and bots, that's run on software that's pre-version-1 and that lacks advanced mod tools, and that likely has an admin team that's using some hacked together third party scripts or tools to try and identify bad actors. It's not only possible, but entirely reasonable, that one of those tools may have falsely identified you as a spam account, and someone either just ran a script that banned a bunch of people, or got into a flow state and just hit the wrong button out of habit.
Pointing fingers and accusing others of bad behaviour out of pure speculation while you're both stomping your feet and having a fit because you feel hurt while simultaneously telling others that the lens they're using is "pure speculation" is... Not productive, to put it mildly.
Polar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
If you’re making your own scripts that can wipe out an entire, legitimate, actively contributing member, you’re incompetent and should shut that shit down.
A script should never do that. It should flag them for manual review.
Sorry, but it’s 100% on the mod team. Let’s switch out toxic for incompetent.
Teppic@kbin.social 11 months ago
I don't really have issue with a bot rate limiting, or suspending users (provided the false positive rate is low enough), but there does need to be a robust appeal and undo process which is the bit which seems to be lacking here.
Rooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Flag them for manual review… You forgot that the MANUAL reviewers are f*cking volunteers. LW lost already few because of that trauma. And they would rather wipe a user than have a chance on spreading csam.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes I did, sorry. I am angry because I feel that I have been treated in an unfair manner.
I understand that but that does not justify nonchalantly destroying all my posts and then not contacting me about it even once.
Running a script that automatically deletes posts without human confirmation and without having the ability to bring deleted posts back, in case the script makes a mistake, seems like a questionable and bad practice to me. When they tried to bring the posts back and it turned out that it was not working they should have at least contacted me to communicate what happened.
That person must have really been in the zone then, considering we are talking about 34 posts. Flow state or not, that would be a pretty embarassing fail but still understandable since humans make mistakes - however, not contacting me at all to comminicate about what happened is not.
FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It looks like a lot of mistakes were made in your case. I saw your posts asking about dialogue and such. I’m surprised no one has reached out to you because, speaking for myself, when I remove something and give an explanation in the modlog and I’m asked more questions by message, I always reply and explain myself. I’m sure someone will interact with you if you send an admin a message. I looked at the log and it looks like a script or other automated action is to blame. The admin actually caught the issue and tried to restore your posts. It also looks like it was a “suspected spam” type of deletion that was corrected. I understand your irritation. I wouldn’t want to be in your situation because you took lots of time to add content to a community you care about. However, it looks like one of those things we call an “honest mistake” that somebody on the admin team tried to take back. I haven’t seen a case like this, it’s very eye-catching to me, because it’s so obviously a mistake. To help make you feel better, I’ll tell you a little story. 2 years ago I spent about 2000 bucks on a Lenovo Legion 5 gaming laptop. I took it to a computer repair guy to clean the dust out of it on the inside and replace the thermal paste on the CPU and GPU. He used a forced air compressor to clean the fans and didn’t see that a loose wire on his work table was inadvertently in contact with one of the cooling fans. Snap! Broke the fan. He apologized personally to me (like, you know, face to face) and promised me he would replace the component he broke free of charge, plus do the whole entire job in front of me so I could see what he was doing. He fulfilled his promise. I must admit, it was quite boring to sit through watching him take out all the screws, etc. But he kept his word and did the right thing. The people that run lemmy world seem to me to be a lot more honest than dishonest and also very willing to admit they screwed up if they screwed up, just like my computer repair guy. I’m very certain that if you pm an admin the very admin responsible for the error will write to you personally. You were just unlucky. Somebody wrote a bad script or was tired and wasn’t thinking clearly. I think it says a lot about how someone attempted to restore your posts. Also, if the images attached to them can’t be recovered, is it too much work on your part to delete the empty restored posts and just make new posts with the images? Maybe in between posts, you can count to ten so it doesn’t look like spam or something? I think that would help make your community look nicer and more appealing to subscribers who like comic book art.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thank you for the kind words and support!
GoldenCow@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I do not know if this is often or no i am sorry it happen to you i like the types of posts you make as euro comics are very good maybe admin will give you apology here too
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just hope the posts can be restored, this has really damaged our community …
Rooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Its a common practise to ban spammers. Yes. Is LW a big corpo whose admins get paid? No! So please, misshaps can happen on every instance.
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How is that relevant, I have never spammed anything?
I see what you mean but should there not be at least a minimum of communication in such cases?
Pardon me? What do you mean by that?
Rooki@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LW had many CSAM attacks ( and all of them had weird names ) and LW admins ( and others ) just seeing: Many posts, Images and then just get the ban hammer. And then you wouldnt communicate with a csam poster. But tbh i dont know the real reason, but that would be my guess