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DavidDoesLemmy@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Pretty much everywhere has traffic jams. Is everyone doing poor road planning?

And the road is meant for all vehicles.

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the_doktor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yes, the idea of having roads on other roads that already exist that were created back when the horse and buggy was a thing is the main goddamn problem.

No, the road is meant for high-speed cars. Get your slow, fragile bikes off of them.

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- sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  No, the road is meant for high-speed cars. Get your slow, fragile bikes off of them.
  
  No it’s not. Not according to most legal systems at least. Not sure where you live, but I am quite sure that except some specific roads (like highways), most roads are meant for all vehicles. The fact that you can’t see past your own needs is something between you and your therapist, but I suggest you check your local regulation.
  
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  - the_doktor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’d love to see a bike trying to ride down a busy fucking road and not get its ass ran over. Maybe your little suburban hillbilly elitist streets have people pedaling down at a scant fraction of the speed of real cars, but that shit doesn’t fly anywhere else.
    
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    sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I live in a city, the concept of suburbs barely exists here. Also cyclists ride on roads quite often, especially sports bikes on roads leaving the city. Within the city also, but with bike lanes it’s harder to see. Just now there are big panels in the city for an awareness campaign reading “the street is for everyone”, imagine.
    
    Last i checked cars had a steering wheel and a brake pedal, so " running over" someone is a matter of negligence or incompetence. Not sure which one you think is your problem, but that makes it your responsibility. Saying that the road is for everyone is a fact, not sure why you perceive that as elitist, which has literally the opposite meaning.
    
    Finally I am curious, what is a “real car” lol
    
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- DavidDoesLemmy@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There were bikes on the road before cars even existed. Learn how to share the road.
  
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