Comment on Martin Scorsese urges filmmakers to fight comic book movie culture: ‘We’ve got to save cinema’
MudMan@kbin.social 11 months agoThe Thor movies have three different directors and a bunch of writers, they don't "say" the same things. And I just walked through why and how they are different.
The Taika Waititi movies, which I presume are the ones you're referring to, actively mock the gods they depict. Hel is actively a place where Odin is hiding, figuratively, the shame of his colonial past. In the sequel, Valhalla is in fact presented as a physical afterlife, but honestly it's, like the "there is onkly one God", more of a metatextual statement to limit the bummer of an ending. See my post above about why Valhalla being Valhalla and Jane going there physically is the opposite of what Guardians 3 is doing.
But hey, ultimately the TLDR is: nobody involved in Love & Thunder thinks there's a Valhalla, and you can tell. Somebody in Guardians thinks there is a version of the nondescript, nondenominational heavenly afterlife they depict, and you can tell.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I disagree, but I’m enjoying reading how you’re waaaaayyyyy overthinking it.
MudMan@kbin.social 11 months ago
I'm not overthinking it, I'm overexplaining it after a bunch of people got really antsy about the concept of movies saying things.
The thinking took like ten minutes after I left the movies. It went "huh, hadn't clocked that Gunn is a spiritual/catholic guy before, It's weird how much of a direct response to the very strongly atheist videogame plot this turned out to be. I like the game's take better".
And that was literally it until I mentioned it in passing here and a bunch of people went "wait whaaaa?" and got really agitated.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
People are like, “whaaaaaat?” because you’re overthinking it.
MudMan@kbin.social 11 months ago
They really aren't. I'm not calling out anything that isn't in there on purpose. Like, obviously on purpose.
There's an argument to be had about to what extent criticism can adequately push a read that the author doesn't intend or disagrees with, but on Guardians I'm literally just repeating what the movie says. I'm not even interpreting anything here.