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• MudMan@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Thor movies have three different directors and a bunch of writers, they don't "say" the same things. And I just walked through why and how they are different.

  The Taika Waititi movies, which I presume are the ones you're referring to, actively mock the gods they depict. Hel is actively a place where Odin is hiding, figuratively, the shame of his colonial past. In the sequel, Valhalla is in fact presented as a physical afterlife, but honestly it's, like the "there is onkly one God", more of a metatextual statement to limit the bummer of an ending. See my post above about why Valhalla being Valhalla and Jane going there physically is the opposite of what Guardians 3 is doing.

  But hey, ultimately the TLDR is: nobody involved in Love & Thunder thinks there's a Valhalla, and you can tell. Somebody in Guardians thinks there is a version of the nondescript, nondenominational heavenly afterlife they depict, and you can tell.

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  • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I disagree, but I’m enjoying reading how you’re waaaaayyyyy overthinking it.

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    • MudMan@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I'm not overthinking it, I'm overexplaining it after a bunch of people got really antsy about the concept of movies saying things.

      The thinking took like ten minutes after I left the movies. It went "huh, hadn't clocked that Gunn is a spiritual/catholic guy before, It's weird how much of a direct response to the very strongly atheist videogame plot this turned out to be. I like the game's take better".

      And that was literally it until I mentioned it in passing here and a bunch of people went "wait whaaaa?" and got really agitated.

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      • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People are like, “whaaaaaat?” because you’re overthinking it.

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