Comment on Martin Scorsese urges filmmakers to fight comic book movie culture: ‘We’ve got to save cinema’
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 year agoIn the Thor movies they explain that Hel and Valhalla are real as well. I don’t see it as any different.
Comment on Martin Scorsese urges filmmakers to fight comic book movie culture: ‘We’ve got to save cinema’
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 year agoIn the Thor movies they explain that Hel and Valhalla are real as well. I don’t see it as any different.
MudMan@kbin.social 1 year ago
The Thor movies have three different directors and a bunch of writers, they don't "say" the same things. And I just walked through why and how they are different.
The Taika Waititi movies, which I presume are the ones you're referring to, actively mock the gods they depict. Hel is actively a place where Odin is hiding, figuratively, the shame of his colonial past. In the sequel, Valhalla is in fact presented as a physical afterlife, but honestly it's, like the "there is onkly one God", more of a metatextual statement to limit the bummer of an ending. See my post above about why Valhalla being Valhalla and Jane going there physically is the opposite of what Guardians 3 is doing.
But hey, ultimately the TLDR is: nobody involved in Love & Thunder thinks there's a Valhalla, and you can tell. Somebody in Guardians thinks there is a version of the nondescript, nondenominational heavenly afterlife they depict, and you can tell.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I disagree, but I’m enjoying reading how you’re waaaaayyyyy overthinking it.
MudMan@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm not overthinking it, I'm overexplaining it after a bunch of people got really antsy about the concept of movies saying things.
The thinking took like ten minutes after I left the movies. It went "huh, hadn't clocked that Gunn is a spiritual/catholic guy before, It's weird how much of a direct response to the very strongly atheist videogame plot this turned out to be. I like the game's take better".
And that was literally it until I mentioned it in passing here and a bunch of people went "wait whaaaa?" and got really agitated.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
People are like, “whaaaaaat?” because you’re overthinking it.