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noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day agoFor those of us who still eat a meat diet, it usually takes a chef to make something actually enjoyable from strictly vegetables.
chop brussels sprouts in half, toss with avocado oil with some salt and pepper, and air fry for 15-20 mins. toss some balsamic on em after they’re done.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Which is delicious! There are a number of things that are edible. But let me clarify…
In most of the households I lived in with others, I just needed to wait less than a month before the women around wanted flesh and blood. Neither spinach (which has the iron they crave) nor tofu (high protein) cut it.
And in the public, the mere smell of fast food burgers keeps them coming in. As long as dead animal flesh can be sold, it will be, and we don’t regulate it. (Yes, in India, cows are sacred, but chickens and goats certainly are not)
There are plenty of individual dishes that are fine. But if you want well rounded nutrition, eventually you’re going to be resorting to the few high-protein things that are either uninteresting or a bitch to prepare.
Now mind you, my kitchen savvy is limited. I’m learning, but slowly.
noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
Feels like the goalposts just moved.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
No, what I said was different from what was read. I’ll take the blame you like. I’m not trying to win an argument, and don’t think less of you if you fail to make a relevant point.
I’m trying to clarify my position.
I also wasn’t intending to imply we can’t or shouldn’t have to move away from meat (more on that below) but that society is going to be difficult to move in that direction.
Though I would say eventually for sake of sustainability we’ll probably need to move to veganism or cultured meat or invertebrate protein, at least until we can get our space colonization and terraforming programs up to speed. But we’re probably going to starve via climate-crisis driven drought sooner than any of these solutions become popular.
I do hope to be demonstrated wrong by the future, though.
noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
All I was trying to say is that it doesn’t take a professional chef’s level of skill to cook tasty and nutritious food without using meat.
To address more of your post I originally responded to, I don’t think there’s any need for development or investment in vegan/vegetarian food, or meat alternatives.
Plenty of delicious and nutritious food exists without requiring meat or animal products. And preparing such meals is not even remotely difficult or expensive, with the very important caveats of those food items being available for purchase without price gouging where folks live (like food deserts - think someone who can’t afford a car but whose neighborhood doesn’t have any real grocery stores), and some folks have dietary issues that may make eating meat the only practical choice.
I think we agree that the problem exists and that a lot of people are too comfortable with the status quo to voluntarily change. I just don’t think it’s fair to suggest that meat-free food somehow isn’t good enough.