Comment on Conservative people are the moist toxic and aggressive people for no reason
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 17 hours agoWhat exactly is the logic of your comment? The attitude of people judging right wingers based on their own actions makes “liberals lose* elections”? Where exactly is the information you’re basing this on? Your gut feeling? None of what you said made any sense.
The actions of voting for people who want to remove people’s rights. The actions of supporting a rapist convicted felon liar. The actions of spreading lies that cost people their lives. The actions of spreading hate towards LGBTQ+ people and anyone who is not willing to be a bigot towards them too, like library workers who get so many death threats they have to leave their job and town. All of these of their own actions are what makes them no longer decent* people, not the label itself. Their hateful, disgusting actions.
How does that exactly cause liberals to lose elections?
People who are willing to do and/or support any or all of the aforementioned behaviors had already made up their mind on who they would vote for. When logic and reason was never even involved in their decision in the first place, then logic and reason is not going to magically start working suddenly.
teslasaur@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
You’re judging people based on some flaky righty-lefty dogma that attempts to put people in teams. Stop doing that, and think a bit more logically. People have a million different reasons for thinking a certain way about different subjects, and they might still be kind people. Of the top of my head, i remember the pair of guys who let Borat stay with them. They had the most insane ideas about politics that i’ve ever heard. But they let a random “immigrant” stay in their house, and didn’t utter a single word of complaint. So you’d think they are pretty tolerant. Much more tolerant than a lot of people who vote left that i’ve mer. Those are the kind people that you lose to the other side. Especially when you call them evil, or whatever you think they might be.
My gut feeling? You did lose the election. Are you not living in the same world I am? You have lost touch with what people want and prioritize.
Judge people on action, but don’t fucking label half your country as evil. Many of them have been spoonfed lies like religion since birth.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Can we skip right to the part where we show them films of the atrocities they voted for (precursors for many of which area already in today’s headlines) or do we have to wait for all those atrocities to happen first?
dailymail.co.uk/…/Clip-shows-Germans-walk-Nazi-ca…
thevintagenews.com/…/this-is-how-the-german-soldi…
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teslasaur@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
There you go again. Nazis. This isn’t the same. Find a new angle, because whatever is going on in the US isn’t working.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today
Leading Civil Rights Lawyer Shows 20 Ways Trump Is Copying Hitler’s Early Rhetoric and Policies
Here’s the list from that second article. Article goes into detail for each.
Neither was elected by a majority. (not relevant now this was 2019 - but if you are trying to pick these apart one by one instead of looking at the picture they paint, you are still doing it wrong)
Both found direct communication channels to their base.
Both blame others and divide on racial lines.
Both relentlessly demonize opponents.
They unceasingly attack objective truth.
They relentlessly attack mainstream media.
Their attacks on truth include science.
Their lies blur reality–and supporters spread them.
Both orchestrated mass rallies to show status.
They embrace extreme nationalism.
Both made closing borders a centerpiece.
They embraced mass detention and deportations.
Both used borders to protect selected industries.
They cemented their rule by enriching elites.
Both rejected international norms.
They attack domestic democratic processes.
Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.
Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.
They proclaim unchecked power.
Both relegate women to subordinate roles.
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Though if you can’t see it for yourself by now you aren’t paying attention or don’t want to see it.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I literally listed actions of individuals. I did previously also very clearly provide logic explaining how the right has defined their party as “all or nothing” themselves. If you don’t want to be a part of a party that wants that, then don’t support that party.
Additionally, you’re the one spouting brainless “left bad” nonsense without anything to back it up:
Then you’re trying to put words in my mouth:
I never even said the word “evil”. I think you just outed yourself.
I never said anything about not losing “the election” (Note how that’s different from “elections” like you said earlier. Now you’re shifting the goalpost). I was specifically asking about your claims for the cause of lost “elections” (again, different from “the election”). You made a very specific claim about the cause of lost elections, and you also said “elections” which claims like these need backing data and information, otherwise you’re talking out of your ass.
But again, it seems you’ve outlined the disconnect there in that you’ve decided to live in a different world where you get to choose what I said and what I meant. Good luck in that little world of yours, kiddo. Keep me out of it.
teslasaur@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Your words. Literally. Stop labeling people.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I love your method of completely ignoring my point that I’ve very clearly outlined and just replace it with whatever you’ve decided my point is.
You’re the living embodiment of “I reject your reality and substitute it with my own.”