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Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Now is literally the time to fight for a new party. We’re 4 years away from a general election, the next elections are local which means its way more realistic and up to all of us to actually go and run with/vote for this “new” party. We have 4 years to work on the message getting a wider spread and even if it doesn’t, we’ll have the Congress if all goes well.

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scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I understand the way you’re feeling. I have been there too. What you should fight for is a new Democratic Party, not a third party that will simply siphon votes from them, helping Republicans. Inagine doing all the work you describe only to realize you’ve been working against yourself the whole time. That’s what would happen.

A new party feels exciting because it’s new and you will have more control over it. But it’s like rushing out to create a “new” road system because of traffic and potholes. I know it’s not exciting but incremental change for the better is a far better use of your energy than thinking you can go out and crate sweeping change by starting a third party.

It’s ultimately just math.

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- Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I believe Sanders is actually independent and just votes with Democrats because they’re the current only option.
  
  We cannot afford to chain ourselves to a corporate focused party that will never have our best interest in mind. We have 4 years to start working on this, we can’t keep doing this “it’s too late” thing over and over and over and over. The Democratic party is still refusing to accept what they did wrong. They’re pulling this whole “it was a messaging problem” thing as if they just need to lie to us harder and somehow we’ll get them back in office.
  
  I’m tired of 40 years of the same thing. They aren’t changing.
  
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  - scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I believe Sanders is actually independent and just votes with Democrats because they’re the current only option.
    
    Bingo. Do that.
    
    All your complaints are valid. I hear you and I share the pain. I’ve been putting up with it even longer.
    
    A third party is still not the answer. It has never been, and will never be until the entire system of government and elections is completely different. Under existing conditions it is suicide, and a gift to Republicans.
    
    I know this is hard to accept. I’m sorry. But I’d rather give it to you straight than blow smoke up your ass about organizing a whole new party to win in 4 years.
    
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