We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here. If there is something going down I want to know about it. However, so far it is just been more gossip type stuff than anything.
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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months agoFirst they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak for me.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here.
In a thread with a video of Elon Musk giving a Nazi Seig Heil twice. The same Elon Musk who threw down his support of Germany’s far-right AfD party. The same Elon Musk who threw a live event for them on Twitter.
If you can’t see what’s going on here you have done a miraculous job at keeping yourself ignorant. This is all about Nazi Germany. Except that now it’s Nazi America.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Well America is backing Israel so I don’t see Antisemitic views going anywhere.
Currently a lot of the Anti semitism come from people blaming Jews for what’s happening in Gaza. There have been a lot of attacks on Mosques and even some anti Israel protests in front of them.
In short I don’t think the Trump administration is Nazi. There other words you could use but Nazi is not one of them.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There other words you could use but Nazi is not one of them.
I’d be quite interested in what that would be…
That they have the courage to actually do a Nazi-salute, very likely without consequences, what is it if it is not Nazi?
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I think you’re under the impression that Nazis only killed Jews or that they have a particular link with them. Nearly half the victims of the holocaust were not Jews. They didn’t even start with killing Jews. They worked up to them later. They started with homosexuals, the disabled, sick, Slavic peoples, Roma (gypsies).
The numbers generally referenced are that of the 11 million people murdered in the holocaust, 6 million were Jewish, and 5 million were not.
MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
No one (except for a very few nut jobs) is blaming Jews for the genocide that is happening, they’re blaming the state of Israel. The current government and individual people making the decisions. Disagreeing with apartheid Israel does not equal ‘blaming jews’.
Also, look into Christian Zionism. There are a lot of literal nazis and other antisemites who are thrilled about backing Israel right now, because they think that this is all part of a prophecy that brings about the end times or something… And this prophecy does not end well for Jews. So no, supporting Israel does not necessarily mean someone isn’t antisemetic right now either.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
You have a literal video-taped proof that it’s Nazi USA and you talk about gossip?
guy@piefed.social 2 months ago
We aren't talking about Nazi Germany here
Yet
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
That’s fair enough
I just find it annoying that some people take a few clips and images and draw wild conclusions. Right now the US is backing Israel so I don’t think we will see Trump attacking Jews any time soon.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
draw wild conclusions
What’s your conclusion of this obvious Nazi salute?
guy@piefed.social 2 months ago
Jews weren't the sole target of the Nazis. Liberals, socialists, communists, union members, homosexuals etc etc.
I don't think anyone believes Musk and his bestie is gonna round up Jews in concentration camps. But maybe in time it could be aforementioned people.So Elon Musk heiling on stage, expressing love for the nazi-lite patry in Germany (of all places) and the President cozying up to Israel where one of the minister describes himself as "fascist" is maybe not wild conclusions.
Not seeing this for what it is is missing the forrest for all trees.
ElPsyKongroo@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The Nazis are associated with the Holocaust rightfully so, but it ends up with people thinking that all it entails is anti-semitism. Trump and Elon Musk can back Israel and be Nazis.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The problem is liberals only speak out, in action they don’t do shit to protect the vulnerable, they never hold their own politicians accountable for their inaction.