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The lemma is the default.

Sometimes common usage is wrong.

Okay so what youre saying is that we should differentiate between male and female actors with specific words to… ensure heteronormativity in the way you see it? Despite feminists calling the exact opposite for several decades before you were even born?

downloads.bbc.co.uk/…/weekender_actor_070406.pdf

Then, if we jump forward to the 1970s and 1980s, women began to choose the term ‘actor’ instead of ‘actress’ as a direct result of the women’s movement and an awareness of gender bias in language. Women began to take back the term ‘actor’, and it’s often used today. Zoë Wannamaker explains that in the 1970s and 1980s there was ‘a stigma’ – a feeling that people disapproved – of being called an actress. This was because the word actress seemed to have the ‘connotation’, or suggested meaning, of being a prostitute

So just so you know, you’re insisting on calling all women’s whores by implication. Sexist as fuck

You need to do better, no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

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the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Idk how long you spent googling, trying to find something that would support your point, but the fact that the best you could come up with was only relevant to the UK in the 1970s is p funny. Did you think you were arguing with Elton John?

no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

Guy who definitely isn’t a conservative was just trying to enforce 60 year old social norms a minute ago lol

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- Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah I wrote that on my mobile, lol.
  
  Just how young do you need to be to not know that women actors do not want to be called actresses? 15? 19?
  
  It’s what feminism has been doing SINCE the 70’s. Not IN the seventies.
  
  One of us clearly has better command of the English language. Not that I’m appealing to authority, but, weirdly you dropped arguing over “the male form” after I linked a Wiki article on what a lemma is… Guess you hadn’t heard that word before. You’re welcome for the lesson. ;>
  
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  - the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Just how young or ignorant do you need to be to not know that feminism doesn’t want women actors to be called “actresses” (as it implies being a prostitute)?
    
    I’m way more interested in what actresses want to be called than what feminists believe they should be called, unless those feminists are also actresses. Most actresses seem to prefer actress. That’s good enough for me.
    
    Not that I’m appealing to authority
    
    “…but that was the entirety of my last post and 75% of this one”
    
    Guess you hadn’t heard that word before?
    
    What in the name of Dunning Krueger happened in your life that made you fall so deeply in love with yourself? I bet you were an only child.
    
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    Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    You’re purposefully trying to misrepresent the view of feminism as an ideology as an errant thought of a few people who identify as feminists, implying that I’m wrong in saying that actors want to be called actors, not “actresses”, you sexist pig.
    
    You need more sources?
    
    www.backstage.com/…/actor-vs-actress-76531/
    
    Dating back to the early 1700s, the term “actress” first emerged to separate men and women in a male-dominated profession. But as society continues to confront and expand upon gender norms, many are calling for an end to divisive vocabulary. So which is the correct terminology: actor or actress? Let’s look at this modern debate.
    
    reddit.com/…/about_gendered_words_if_the_word_act…
    
    historianruby.com/…/why-was-the-perception-of-the…
    
    actingmagazine.com/…/why-cant-we-say-actress-anym…
    
    Why Can’t We Say ‘Actress’ Anymore?
    
    In recent years, the term “actress” has fallen out of favor, with many in the entertainment industry preferring the gender-neutral term “actor” for all performers, regardless of their gender. This shift reflects broader societal changes in how we view gender, language, and equality. But why has this change occurred, and what does it signify?
    
    What, “in recent years”? It wasn’t just in the past? o.O
    
    Why do you want to needlessly gender things?
    
    What in the name of Dunning Krueger happened in your life that made you fall so deeply in love with yourself? I bet you were an only child.
    
    Guess I hit a sensitive place teaching you a lesson? :F I’m actually a middle child. Well, was, technically, depending on how you look at it, as mom had another kid later with another man, so now I’m 2/4 and that’s not the middle, so…
    
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