It’s called sample bias. You’re only talking about the artists you’ve personally met, not the statistics of artists as a whole.
I also think you’ve got a bias in favor of tech bros because you see them as hard workers, and see artists as lazy elites.
And when I am talking about artists, I’m not talking about the small fraction that are in “high” arts with museums n shit.
It sounds to me that you you don’t really know a lot of artists and don’t really know a lot about this whole situation but still managed to form an opinion.
It’s called sample bias. You’re only talking about the artists you’ve personally met, not the statistics of artists as a whole.
I know what sample bias is.
If you read my linked comment carefully, I’m not talking about just people I’d met IRL personally, I genuinely don’t know of any actually struggling contemporary artbros.
Statistics lie, like I said, they may earn less on paper as a wage, but they are raking it in otherwise or have QoL far superior to even the top wagies, if they couldn’t, they’d be working at a factory.
And when I am talking about artists, I’m not talking about the small fraction that are in “high” arts with museums n shit.
And did I mention or imply I meant anything of the sort? No by artbros I just meant (like in the linked comment) people who are professionally doing things like animating, drawing, 3D modeling/CGI, writing, film or music.
also think you’ve got a bias in favor of tech bros because you see them as hard workers, and see artists as lazy elites.
Prove me wrong then.
It sounds to me that you you don’t really know a lot of artists and don’t really know a lot about this whole situation but still managed to form an opinion.
If that were the case I’d still know way more than you it seems.
Or do you have an actual counterpoint, like an example?
So you’re saying you don’t know of any financially struggling artists.
How exactly would you hear about an artist who isn’t doing well financially but is so popular you’d hear about them? If you actually hung out in artist circles then you’d know a lot of artists like that, so yeah, I’m assuming you don’t.
You said that if they appeared to not be making money they are essentially lying about it or going off to work in a factory.
So you’re preventively arguing against any evidence to the contrary of the poor artist. As for the factory part, my brother in Christ, that’s what most artists have to do. They work part time or full time jobs, sometimes multiple jobs, to supplement their income.
As for your definition of artbro, that’s a myopic sliver of the art world as a whole, and I am dismissing your aren’t to limit the conversation to just those people, because the topic is about generative ai which affects the WHOLE art community. Amateurs to full on professionals. In every branch of the arts.
I guess this is where the miscommunication has been happening, since I’m talking about artists as a whole and you’re only talking about those which have gotten jobs in specific industries.
So I apologize, I thought you were coming from a more holistic, knowledgeable, informed, and experienced position than you were and shouldn’t have put that upon you.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s called sample bias. You’re only talking about the artists you’ve personally met, not the statistics of artists as a whole.
I also think you’ve got a bias in favor of tech bros because you see them as hard workers, and see artists as lazy elites.
And when I am talking about artists, I’m not talking about the small fraction that are in “high” arts with museums n shit.
It sounds to me that you you don’t really know a lot of artists and don’t really know a lot about this whole situation but still managed to form an opinion.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I know what sample bias is.
If you read my linked comment carefully, I’m not talking about just people I’d met IRL personally, I genuinely don’t know of any actually struggling contemporary artbros.
Statistics lie, like I said, they may earn less on paper as a wage, but they are raking it in otherwise or have QoL far superior to even the top wagies, if they couldn’t, they’d be working at a factory.
And did I mention or imply I meant anything of the sort? No by artbros I just meant (like in the linked comment) people who are professionally doing things like animating, drawing, 3D modeling/CGI, writing, film or music.
Prove me wrong then.
If that were the case I’d still know way more than you it seems.
Or do you have an actual counterpoint, like an example?
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So you’re saying you don’t know of any financially struggling artists.
How exactly would you hear about an artist who isn’t doing well financially but is so popular you’d hear about them? If you actually hung out in artist circles then you’d know a lot of artists like that, so yeah, I’m assuming you don’t.
You said that if they appeared to not be making money they are essentially lying about it or going off to work in a factory.
So you’re preventively arguing against any evidence to the contrary of the poor artist. As for the factory part, my brother in Christ, that’s what most artists have to do. They work part time or full time jobs, sometimes multiple jobs, to supplement their income.
As for your definition of artbro, that’s a myopic sliver of the art world as a whole, and I am dismissing your aren’t to limit the conversation to just those people, because the topic is about generative ai which affects the WHOLE art community. Amateurs to full on professionals. In every branch of the arts.
I guess this is where the miscommunication has been happening, since I’m talking about artists as a whole and you’re only talking about those which have gotten jobs in specific industries.
So I apologize, I thought you were coming from a more holistic, knowledgeable, informed, and experienced position than you were and shouldn’t have put that upon you.