World of Warcraft Forever thought related to AI and bots

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Amarlune@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

So as I’m sure some of you have been doing, thoroughly enjoying WoW Forever. A friend of mine is tinkering with using AI to make a mod for the AI in civilizations 5, as we really struggled when we were younger with the AI as we wanted to play on Marathon and only found one other IRL friend to go through marathon slogs with us. I wonder if anyone has been experimenting with using an AI chatbot to generate a roleplaying character in World of Warcraft Forever. Typically bots are reviewed resoundingly with hostility in WoW as they warp the in game economy. I feel that there is a lot of potential to make the game far more customized and… alive, if gen AI roleplay chatbots were allowed to play and roam. I think that running a bot like that and crafting it would be quite the endeavor.

My older brother died last year of a genetic heart condition at the age of 35, but before he passed he was able to hit Masters in Starcraft 2. He was quite excited about the bot battling tournaments, and thought that was an awesome direction for RTS games to take. Unfortunately, not many people have the skills to program/build bots like that, so is quite niche. What are your thoughts Threadiverse??

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hades@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’m sorry for your loss.

I think the core issue with your post is that as many other people, you have been lied to. The so called “AI” industry has nothing to do with intelligence or even teaching the computer to do a specific thing, such as play StarCraft.

If you add an LLM based player to WoW it will not feel more alive.

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- Amarlune@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Starcraft bot battling was a thing before gen AI took off.
  
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  - hades@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    AI didn’t “take off”. What they call AI in the media and in marketing is mostly LLM-based word generators.
    
    Obviously, AI existed since the dawn of gaming, and indeed there’s been some progress, but mostly in very specific games (e.g. AlphaGo). Building an actual game AI is indeed hard, you can’t just plug in an LLM and call it a day.
    
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MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
If you run your own local WotLK server you can have hundreds or thousands of bots running around in the world and even party up with them.

Knowing they’re bots though makes it feel soulless and pointless to me.

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bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I don’t get it. You want a bot to RP in WoW with you or play CIV V? It sounds like your not quite sure yourself which I think is why people are downvoting. My condolences about your brother.

If you’re interested in this there are/were a lot of Skyrim mods that use LLMs to make interactable followers. That was before prices of LLMs went up so much mind you. If you really are interested in this topic this is what I’d start with. A lot of this code is not open and WoW and Skyrim are quite different games in nature.

Tbh the human element in WoW RP always appealed to me, why not find some random people to RP with? I saw an Orc called Chris Orcson in the starting zone of Forever who kept spamming “Why don’t you have a seat” in chat and emoting. I thought that was quite funny and added the guy and talked.

It doesn’t sound like you even know what you want in an RP bot.

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- Amarlune@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  suppose I could have phrased things more clearly. No, a friend was working on the original ingame non-player AI, using gen AI to work on the addon. I wouldn’t be interested in making an RP bot myself, however in terms of content having dynamic AI chatbot based wandering NPCs I think would be a good addition to the game vs how the NPCs work now. Either Blizzard doing it themselves, or opening it up to the community to allow them to pay a sub and run an approved RP bot.
  
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