9/11 25th Anniversary: Rousing the sleeping dragon

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone⁩ to ⁨worldnews@aussie.zone⁩

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/911-25th-anniversary-rousing-the-sleeping-dragon,21534

She fit perfectly the description that George W. Bush gave of his countrymen in his second acceptance speech:

“… sturdy and honest, and hopeful as the break of day.”

With innocent delight she told me about her wonderful luck in business. She and her husband lived in Florida; they owned a furniture factory in the Caribbean which earned them extraordinary amounts of money. They were very rich. God had guided and protected them all the way.

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“It’s amazing!” she marvelled. “We are so blessed! You know, we hardly have to pay the workers anything!”

It seems that, like the powerful all through history, we in the prosperous West have been blind to the most fundamental of truths: that all human beings truly are of equal worth. Without this knowledge rooted in blood and sinew and bone, we’ve taken it for granted that somehow, we matter more than the rest.

So we’ve fallen into what is, in fact, exploitation

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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Add memories of colonial shame, governments slyly in league with global finance, a hyped-up religious fundamentalism and a few tighter turns on the screw… and you have a time bomb.

Yeah for some reason it’s always one particular religion 🙄

It’s also straight up not true, the main man behind the attacks was ‘rich’

From 1968 to 1976, Osama attended the prestigious Al-Thager Model School in Jeddah,[15][29] and then an English-language course in Oxford, England, in 1971.[30] In the late 1970s, he started studying economics and business administration at King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah.[31][32]

He was simply following Islam as he best he felt he could:

Bin Laden was reportedly an avid reader, and often quoted Bernard Montgomery and Charles de Gaulle.[37] He was raised into Sunni Islam,[38] and subscribed to the Athari school of Islamic theology which interprets the Quran literally, rather than figuratively.[39]

For religious reasons, he was against gambling, homosexuality, intoxicants, masturbation, music, premarital sex, and usury.[40][41][42]

and then used that as a base to attack anyone not Muslim, scraping the barrel for reasons to kill civilians, as is the case with many Muslims (not ALL Muslims), even here in Australia:

The ASIO head’s statement says that while Sunni violent extremism represents the majority of the case load of the spy agency’s work, the terror threats have diversified online since September 11.

STATEMENT VO: “Al-Qaeda, ISIS and their affiliates are exploiting permissive spaces in the real world and online to grow their capabilities, demonstrating a renewed capacity to conduct and inspire attacks outside their immediate spheres of influence… These groups still see western interests as legitimate targets.”

www.sbs.com.au/news/podcast-episode/…/a99kdc8m0

Can I just say as well

It seems that, like the powerful all through history, we in the prosperous West have been blind to the most fundamental of truths: that all human beings truly are of equal worth

Holy crap this lady sounds naive as hell for 2026

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- Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah, i felt writing that and not recognising Bin Laden’s wealth was an oversight that she needed to address for her narrative to work properly. I don’t think it disqualifies the narrative though, but glad someones highlighted that.
  
  Not to mention theres still open questions about how much the Saudis knew, the extent of their involvement, and how high that went. And they are by no means poor or powerless, even then.
  
  Yeah for some reason it’s always one particular religion
  
  Thats just incorrect bigotry about a whole religion, spanning many sects and classifications, not to mention countries and cultures
  
  Definite props though for stating later (not ALL muslims). But blaming a whole set of people at all for the crimes and shit behaviour of a few is never right.
  
  Its like blaming all Jews for what Israel is doing to Palestinians, or all Christians for what the IRA did to British people. Or vice versa in all cases. Was the Pope responsible for Bloody Sunday?
  
  I think theres something real in what you’re picking up on though. But i think its a systemic issue to do with the historic construction of what has become the ‘Islamic world’. European colonialism was influential here, but also more localised and ongoing tribal conflicts. Even environmental pressures.
  
  The conflicts across the Sahel due to the expansion of the Sahara pushing groups into each other’s lands they use for subsistence has been an underlying driver of conflict across that region. Tim Marshall Prisoner’s of Geography was a good distillation of that.
  
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  - Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Its like blaming all Jews for what Israel is doing to Palestinians, or all Christians for what the IRA did to British people. Or vice versa in all cases. Was the Pope responsible for Bloody Sunday?
    
    This line used to work on me back in the olden days, I remember back when Christians would say, can you blame all Christians for the Westboro Baptist Church?
    
    The hardest part to square was that there are billions of Christians and Westboro only represented a tiny fringe few people, literally just 1 family.
    
    On the other hand with Islam, it’s not isolated incidents or groups is it?
    
    en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_designated_terrorist_g…
    
    These are groups with 100’s of millions of followers committing atrocities literally all over the globe
    
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    And as mentioned they currently consume a majority of our head security agencies time in preventing terrorism despite them being in Australia (a peaceful country where there is no need for violence) despite being only 3.2% of the population.
    
    The ASIO head’s statement says that while Sunni violent extremism represents the majority of the case load of the spy agency’s work, the terror threats have diversified online since September 11.
    
    Melbourne btw:
    
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    This level of lets all just be friends :D may have worked back in 2006 but it doesn’t work in 2026
    
    The conflicts across the Sahel due to the expansion of the Sahara pushing groups into each other’s lands they use for subsistence has been an underlying driver of conflict across that region.
    
    I have to press X for doubt, these conflicts have been going on for decades and decades
    
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