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Boys and Men in the United States Are Struggling. The Left Should Talk About It

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https://jacobin.com/2023/09/boys-men-work-despair-struggling-wages-education/

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  • Lemmitor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the fact that we really don’t discuss it much is part of why these Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate style “manosphere” influencers (grifters) amass such a large following so fast.

    Many young men are confused and it’s easy to blindly follow the first sympathetic voice you hear.

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve been saying this over and over. The right is talking to young men, while the left has been telling them that they’re evil, or ignoring them entirely.

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      • Lemmitor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sometimes it seems like empathy is at an all time low, overall. I consider myself to be extremely left leaning and in my interactions with likeminded individuals, I find that they often fail to address people as people and instead of treating them as some category of social status / power dynamic.

        If you want to convince people that you’re the good guys, you need to start by meeting them at their level. Being hostile is not a great way to do that.

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    • scorpious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I know it’s in vogue and a bullet-proof claim around here, but lumping Rogan with Tate reveals a lack of even a little understanding of the two.

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      • Lenny@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        One could argue the differences between a soft semi-solid poo and liquid diarrhea, but in the end they’re both still shit that should be flushed away.

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  • Mordred_85@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good Jacobin interviewed him, this is an issue to be looking at. Detaching masculinity to toxicity is vital for the future of our societies, I don’t want a “toxic feminism” just a toxic behavior to be acknowledged. Let’s move over the gender wars and recognize the real struggle is between economic classes. And the working class is losing it.

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