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How Telegram's Founder Pavel Durov Became a Culture War Martyr [404]

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨theangriestbird@beehaw.org⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

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  • sem@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I heard that in USA Telegram is used mostly by conservatives, trans-haters and drug dealers. But in Russia where I was born and where I have been leaving until the war, Telegram was a single source of alternative news and the main tool for opposition to putin. I had a talk with an Iranian guy recently and he told me the same: in Iran Telegram is the only source of non-state-propaganda news.

    I do not care that Durov is just a billionaire who makes money on the trend of privacy. But I remember how Telegram successfully fought against attempt of blocking in Russia in 2018 by providing regular updates and using different techniques to avoid blocking. An attack on Telegram for me is an attack on the latest opposition to putin, khamenei and others.

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    • sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I heard Russia once blocked all social media for three days except Telegram, claiming that could not. Sounds like a deliberate exemption to bolster its reputation. China had no problem blocking it.

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      • jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It may not be just the Kremlin. I’ve had several cases where I wrote about something in a Telegram chat, stuff I had never talked about before, and in a matter of seconds started seeing related ads on Facebook.

        Alternatively, it could be the keyboard leaking all text, or I could have some other spyware, but I’ve only had that happen to me between Telegram and Facebook.

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  • troyunrau@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t understand how authoritarian leaning conservatives and free speech absolutists align most of the time.

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    • Vodulas@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They are the same people most of the time. The freeze peach folks only believe in free speech for themselves

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  • PotentiallyApricots@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks for posting this context. I’ve been wondering about this aspect of this event

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  • SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    and an attack on encrypted messaging

    lmao. It’s barely encrypted and what little of it that is (one-to-one DMs) have never been audited where Telegram hasn’t either ignored the results or just moved the goalposts.

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  • sculd@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Great article to let people understand the problematic aspect of Telegram

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