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Its still possible but harder with each passing generation

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨masterofballs@wolfballs.com⁩ to ⁨freeforum@wolfballs.com⁩

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  • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    For the most part I don't think it was ever easy. Maybe there was a very short period of time where there was an economic boom that really let you just do whatever, but if you go back in history it's always been the case that you need to sacrifice if you want to have a family. It's the reason why people live out in the middle of nowhere to go work in a mine for 16 hours a day. It's the reason why people end up on farms -- it isn't fun or nice work working on a farm. The fact that people like the look of green trees doesn't mean that you're not spending 16 hours doing backbreaking labor just to get a crop at the end of the day.

    It's still possible, but you definitely have to fight for it. A lot of people aren't just aren't willing to do that. They want to have some mystical career where they can work basically no hours in a comfortable City center and make enough money to do anything that they want at any time.

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    • mayonesa@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Maybe there was a very short period of time where there was an economic boom that really let you just do whatever, but if you go back in history it’s always been the case that you need to sacrifice if you want to have a family.

      Jesus H, it's not a binary.

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      • sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Relatively speaking it is.

        My dad didn't have electricity or running water or indoor plumbing or even good food. Meat and potatoes weren't just a turn of phrase, that was the reality of what you were eating most of the year because that's what was available.

        Later on, things got better and he got all those things, which is pretty neat, but there's been hard times too. Sure, you could get a job anywhere at times, but one of the most important stories I remember is where there was a recession so bad there wasn't any work anywhere and the mine he worked at in his hometown shut down. He had to get on his motorcycle and start driving until he found somewhere -- anywhere that would hire someone. The whole family had to split up because even in that moment where there were good times, eventually the good times ended.

        My family has had lots of times of plenty and lots of rough times. Sometimes you end up having to move to the middle of nowhere because that's where there's work, sometimes you have to work on the road because that's where the work is, and you don't get to see your family for weeks at a time because that's the sacrifice you gotta make.

        Yeah, sometimes there's boom times and boom towns, but most places weren't Detroit in the 60s.

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  • Scruffy_Nerfherder@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    LOL, If you're a doctor and you send you kids to community college....

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    • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Lolololol, that's true. But Medical college is not like other private colleges, AFAIK. There is partying, but the kids are quite busy and don't have time to fuck around or blow tons of $$

      I think private medical college is the only private college that's still worth the investment.

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  • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    You can own a decent home + car, if you don't live in urban jungle. Don't go to college, do technical community or apprenticeship

    Put the savings in Gold and fixed assets, since Feds will make it all worthless by printing

    Should be enough to live well and retire

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    • masterofballs@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Thats good advise. Although if you date a girl from another culture it's best to learn the language and culture and it's ups and downs. For one it's the respectful thing to do. I've seen dudes ban their wife from speaking their native language in their home. It's a disservice to the children. Most people probably shouldn't do it. It causes lots of fights. It puts you in awkward situations.

      But If a women doesn't want children and you want children they are not worth your time or money. Not a single second should be wasted on them.

      Not a one size fits all. In my case college was a good investment. I would have always regretted not going. and it was directed at getting a job not studying fat gender gay studies. I was super hard because I came from a poor broken family.

      Best investment I ever made was buying a house. It doubled in value due to the pandemic. I've only owned it like 2 or 3 years and made over 240k in equity. And that was with a 10% down payment. Yeah there has been massive inflation but now my loans are cheaper. In a couple years I'll be able to sell my house and buy another one in cash in a cheaper area. I work from home anyways.

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      • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        100% correct. No shortcuts.

        I dated feminists in Germany for years. Finally grew a pair and moved to a more traditional country. Spent years learning language and culture, and dated village girls who wanted to be mothers. Before agreeing to be her bf, we agreed on how many kids we want, how we will handle money and jobs. The kids will learn and speak her culture first, then mine.

        Went to American College too, spent ~60k. Loved it but if I could redo it, I would invest the cash better. Even paying for tech certifications would be a faster return on investment compared to private college. I think public college is way cheaper, and for hard workers, they still learn quite well.

        My new house in the city from last year is worth 50% more, but I worry about increase in living costs, i.e. restaurants will pay higher rent so food prices will go up etc. Like you, I am planning to sell mine, and move to a bigger land in a rural area.

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      • Monarque@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Banning wife from native language? Ridiculous. A good husband will even try to learn a bit of her language and to get in on the jokes and conversations whenever possible.

        Some people!

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    • wigglehard@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      In my experience in online dating, the following countries are great for women who are feminine and loyal and love God and would embrace being a house wife. The Philippines, Cuba, ukraine, russia, belarus, romania, indonesia, china, Madagascar and angola, although there are many bad apples, just make sure you have multiple chicks, weed out the trash snd pick the gens to go forward with

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      • mayonesa@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        In my experience, this never ends well.

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      • iamtanmay@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Interesting, you and I have overlap in Cuba and Eastern Europe. I only dated in person, not online. So I would travel, live and learn the culture and language of that country.

        What you say is true. It takes years to develop the 'radar' to judge how women behave. The simpler and straightforward a woman is vs 'gameplaying', the better and more reliable. But its a 2 way street, and a dishonest guy who sleeps around will lose even with the best woman.

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    • mayonesa@wolfballs.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      If American women are too much, travel to a catholic/orthodox nation that’s not much poorer and date a middle class village girl there.

      Typically shitty dilettante advice.

      Date/marry someone like you.

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