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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Military power is neither inherently virtue nor vice

  False. It’s an evil. Some would say a necessary evil, but that’s debatable.

  without it the voice of a nation becomes smaller and smaller until it becomes non-existent

  Bullshit. Organised murder isn’t free speech, nor does it protect free speech. It’s very often used to SUPPRESS free speech and democracy, though.

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  • Nahvi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    but that’s debatable.

    Do you think Zelensky thinks military power is a useful tool? Do you think he and NATO are doing evil by defending Ukraine?

    Putting my cards on the table; I am not the biggest fan of the US getting involved in another overseas war, even if it is only providing weapons. I am curious though how a defensive war fits into your “military power is evil” mindset.

    Organised murder isn’t free speech

    Having a military does not mean you have to participate in offensive wars.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you think Zelensky thinks military power is a useful tool?

      I think the people of Ukraine would have found it useful for Putin to not use that “tool” against them.

      But yeah, while I’m of course on his side with regards to the war itself, I also think that Zelinski is finding emergency war powers a very useful tool to suppress political opposition and and otherwise further his own power.

      Do you think he and NATO are doing evil by defending Ukraine?

      Of course not, but there’d be no invasion to defend against in the first place if not for the military power of genocidal war criminals like Putin

      I am curious though how a defensive war fits into your “military power is evil” mindset.

      As I pointed out above, it fits fine since there would be no necessity to defend yourself against military power if not attacked with military power.

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      • Nahvi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        there’d be no invasion to defend against in the first place if not for the military power of genocidal war criminals like Putin

        I completely agree though with a caveat. I can’t imagine a just way we would completely eliminate people like Putin.

        The only way I could imagine is becoming the most oppressive and dominating force and pointing our weapons at anyone that glances at other territories. Incidentally, I think this pretty much what we did for 40 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, which explains the era of relative peace we are coming out of. Not that there was ever true peace, but mostly the world powers only played their proxy war games in much smaller nations.

        I also think that Zelinski is finding emergency war powers a very useful tool to suppress political opposition and otherwise further his own political power.

        I have been noticing the same.

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