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Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

We are way past the point where a tear down would save millions of lives, never mind “cost effective”.

sitting at the top of lists for economic and military power

You KNOW that all that economic power belongs to the rich and the rest are poorer than most western countries, right?

Also, celebrating military power as a virtue is some North Korea type shit, not something a modern democracy should be doing.

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Nahvi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Military power is neither inherently virtue nor vice it is a tool that can be used for good or ill. However, without it the voice of a nation becomes smaller and smaller until it becomes non-existent without the support of others.

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- Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  Military power is neither inherently virtue nor vice
  
  False. It’s an evil. Some would say a necessary evil, but that’s debatable.
  
  without it the voice of a nation becomes smaller and smaller until it becomes non-existent
  
  Bullshit. Organised murder isn’t free speech, nor does it protect free speech. It’s very often used to SUPPRESS free speech and democracy, though.
  
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  - Nahvi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    but that’s debatable.
    
    Do you think Zelensky thinks military power is a useful tool? Do you think he and NATO are doing evil by defending Ukraine?
    
    Putting my cards on the table; I am not the biggest fan of the US getting involved in another overseas war, even if it is only providing weapons. I am curious though how a defensive war fits into your “military power is evil” mindset.
    
    Organised murder isn’t free speech
    
    Having a military does not mean you have to participate in offensive wars.
    
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    Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    Do you think Zelensky thinks military power is a useful tool?
    
    I think the people of Ukraine would have found it useful for Putin to not use that “tool” against them.
    
    But yeah, while I’m of course on his side with regards to the war itself, I also think that Zelinski is finding emergency war powers a very useful tool to suppress political opposition and and otherwise further his own power.
    
    Do you think he and NATO are doing evil by defending Ukraine?
    
    Of course not, but there’d be no invasion to defend against in the first place if not for the military power of genocidal war criminals like Putin
    
    I am curious though how a defensive war fits into your “military power is evil” mindset.
    
    As I pointed out above, it fits fine since there would be no necessity to defend yourself against military power if not attacked with military power.
    
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