I didn’t actually say socialism though, did I? I mean, I’m a socialist, but I think we have to just focus on shitting on the rich, because it’s easy and people will be able to join in.
I’m also not ruling out throwing actual shit at the rich.
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
No. Socialists of the past have never won any political victories by saying “rich bad,” the victory comes from presenting alternative solutions like public ownership and central planning. What you are describing is adventurism, not a genuine revolutionary movement.
I suggest you read my intro to Marxism list.
problematicPanther@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
If your only platform is uniting on hatred, and have no actual plans in place for improvement, you just become terrorists, rather than revolutionaries. Something being “easy” doesn’t mean it is effective. Lenin actually wrote about such a group, the Socialist Revolutionaries, in the article Revolutionary Adventurism.
Hating the Capitalists is well and good, but without a unified plan to replace them, the hate becomes the goal and nothing gets better.
NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Shitting on the rich has most definitely worked in MANY situations.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Only when combined with actual practical plans in place beforehand.
NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Isn’t that what this is?
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
No. This platform is “rich bad.” It doesn’t present an alternative, it preserves existing systems that give rise to wealth disparity without tackling them and presenting an alternative.
Toga77@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I mean the French revolution would like a word with you.
Also rich bad. It’s demonstrably true that rich people are completely disconnected from reality and will step on anyone to maintain their wealth.
It is not all of them, but it is most of them. History has always seen class warfare and this time is not different .
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
The French Revolution was a bourgeois revolution. It deposed the monarchy, but unlike what the Paris Commune tried to achieve, the Bourgeoisie became the new owners of the State. Proletarian Revolution needs organization and unity.
Toga77@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Fair. W
hat more powerful motivator than the common rich folk being subject to an entirely different life, government, justice system, etc?
Hopefully people wise up that class warfare never ended.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
That is one useful motivator, that can be combined with Socialist and Communist theory of organization to actually successfully overthrow and replace the previous system.