If people don’t even care if they are declaring war on their own fucking class, no wonder we still live under this bullshit. The Internet was a bad idea. I’d much rather think people like you wouldn’t act like this because if we talked about what we do agree about the world probably wouldn’t be such a depressing shit hole. but no, here we are exchanging blows for no reason
What you’re not getting is that I don’t care about your parents. They are neither good or evil to me. I care about the 99 percent of landlords exploiting people. The existence of one good person in a bad system does not make the system any less parasitical.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
As a neutral outside reader, this person does not sound like they are hating on your parents specifically, and you come across as extremely defensive (understandably). Their point seems to be that the existence of a good cop doesn’t make the police state tolerable, nor does the existence of a good landlord make the system of people owning other’s homes tolerable.
Regardless of how good any landlord is, it would be better for homes to be affordable and owned by those that live in them. In the current system, some areas are unaffordable without renting, but that doesn’t make the landlords morally good categorically, it means they’re part of the problem that drives prices too high in an area. Owning property to rent artificially drives the price of real estate up. Ideally, renting should be far, far more limited or entirely phased out depending on the specific situation. No one is saying that your parents specifically are evil, but they are part of a larger system that is.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
See the disconnect here is that somehow some seem to have the idea that I’m defending landlords in general, when all I’m really doing is trying to let OP know that I identify with their situation and find it shitty that so many people came into the thread so say essentially “nope no exceptions, your aunt sucks”. We could all agree the system sucks and I think I did a decent job of saying I agree with that. I don’t know that renting shouldn’t exist but I definitely think its current state is unacceptable and we’d probably have a lot to agree on about the reasons.
I never expected that dude to “care about” my parents. I expected them to at least accept that their absolutes don’t hold. Saying “I don’t care about your parents” is not necessary and was just meant to be rude. 🤷♂️
erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
When they said, “I don’t care about your parents,” it was an expression of apathy, not animosity. It was them telling you that they agree, and that their point is about the greater system, not that guy’s aunt or your parents. You took it personally and got more defensive. Their absolute does hold, because it’s in regard to a system. The point isn’t that your parents are individually bad people, like you seem to think it is, it’s that they’re part of a bad system, and regardless of their individual actions, the system is still bad. Fundamentally, you, the other commenters, and me agree. They aren’t trying to argue that you’re defending landlords in general, the argument is that your defense of your parents excuses them from the system.
A fair and kind cop is still responsible for participating in an evil system, just as your parents are. They may be good people, with good intentions, and treat people well. No one is denying that. It’s just entirely besides the point. They’re still hoarding property that should be possessed by those that live in them, and housing should be cheaper. Without landlords and real estate conglomerates driving prices high, there should be a surplus of housing. Again, your parents might be good people, but they are participating in an immortal system. Even the best landlord is still a landlord, and while they are nowhere near anyone’s first target to fix the system, they’re still participating.
The best cop is still a cop, the best billionaire is still a billionaire, and the best landlord is still a landlord. It’s nothing personal against them specifically.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Lol the ONLY thing I get is that you don’t care about my parents. Well, that and that maligning people you ought to want to rise up with us of no importance