Yours is the first mention of anyone owing anyone anything. But let’s phrase it this way. If we don’t owe them anything. Then they also don’t owe us anything. Therefore it’s ridiculous and hypocritical to complain that they didn’t deliver on XYZ for us. They didn’t owe it to us.
All I was implying was solidarity. If we the voting population are so ignorant as to not know the difference between abject fascism. And people who, while they don’t excite us. Don’t propose a massive slide into authoritarianism and brutal repression. Or cannot feel obliged to do whatever possible to keep fascists from the levers of power. That is absolutely on us. I didn’t vote for harris. I voted against trump. Unfortunately for more people than should be acceptable wanted fascism. Or at least didn’t find it motivating enough to hold their nose and vote. Which again is on us. If we want Democrats to do better. We also need to do better.
No they literally don’t. They owe the people who largely Finance the party. And they deliver for those people. While voters every 4 years break records for small donations in presidential elections. Every year in between we do a whole lot of nothing in general for them. Then we childishly wine and throw a tantrum when the president that we held our nose to elect does not have support in the House and Senate to actually get anything done for us. It’s not in every 4-year thing. It’s a multiple times a year thing. It’s a showing up enough to change the course of the primaries and seeing them through the general thing. And running the people we would like to see thing. If we all just sit around and take whatever they’ll give. That’s on us.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yours is the first mention of anyone owing anyone anything. But let’s phrase it this way. If we don’t owe them anything. Then they also don’t owe us anything. Therefore it’s ridiculous and hypocritical to complain that they didn’t deliver on XYZ for us. They didn’t owe it to us.
All I was implying was solidarity. If we the voting population are so ignorant as to not know the difference between abject fascism. And people who, while they don’t excite us. Don’t propose a massive slide into authoritarianism and brutal repression. Or cannot feel obliged to do whatever possible to keep fascists from the levers of power. That is absolutely on us. I didn’t vote for harris. I voted against trump. Unfortunately for more people than should be acceptable wanted fascism. Or at least didn’t find it motivating enough to hold their nose and vote. Which again is on us. If we want Democrats to do better. We also need to do better.
onceuponadecember@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No they literally don’t. They owe the people who largely Finance the party. And they deliver for those people. While voters every 4 years break records for small donations in presidential elections. Every year in between we do a whole lot of nothing in general for them. Then we childishly wine and throw a tantrum when the president that we held our nose to elect does not have support in the House and Senate to actually get anything done for us. It’s not in every 4-year thing. It’s a multiple times a year thing. It’s a showing up enough to change the course of the primaries and seeing them through the general thing. And running the people we would like to see thing. If we all just sit around and take whatever they’ll give. That’s on us.
onceuponadecember@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago