Well I’m not here to defend liberals. They’re generally useless. Not an actual solution to any existing problems. But in this case there was simple well documented precedence.
When it comes to stopping fascism. We the voting population share a significant part of the blame ourselves. Democrats ran an abjectly horrible campaign, its true. But when they’re torn between two opposing pillars of power. Disaster was always on the menu. We “can” vote them in to power. Buy we aren’t reliable about it, and can’t provide funding for messaging and outreach the way wealthy oligarchs can. We used to be able to do it. But that was before Reagan broke the unions.
Yours is the first mention of anyone owing anyone anything. But let’s phrase it this way. If we don’t owe them anything. Then they also don’t owe us anything. Therefore it’s ridiculous and hypocritical to complain that they didn’t deliver on XYZ for us. They didn’t owe it to us.
All I was implying was solidarity. If we the voting population are so ignorant as to not know the difference between abject fascism. And people who, while they don’t excite us. Don’t propose a massive slide into authoritarianism and brutal repression. Or cannot feel obliged to do whatever possible to keep fascists from the levers of power. That is absolutely on us. I didn’t vote for harris. I voted against trump. Unfortunately for more people than should be acceptable wanted fascism. Or at least didn’t find it motivating enough to hold their nose and vote. Which again is on us. If we want Democrats to do better. We also need to do better.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Well I’m not here to defend liberals. They’re generally useless. Not an actual solution to any existing problems. But in this case there was simple well documented precedence.
When it comes to stopping fascism. We the voting population share a significant part of the blame ourselves. Democrats ran an abjectly horrible campaign, its true. But when they’re torn between two opposing pillars of power. Disaster was always on the menu. We “can” vote them in to power. Buy we aren’t reliable about it, and can’t provide funding for messaging and outreach the way wealthy oligarchs can. We used to be able to do it. But that was before Reagan broke the unions.
onceuponadecember@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yours is the first mention of anyone owing anyone anything. But let’s phrase it this way. If we don’t owe them anything. Then they also don’t owe us anything. Therefore it’s ridiculous and hypocritical to complain that they didn’t deliver on XYZ for us. They didn’t owe it to us.
All I was implying was solidarity. If we the voting population are so ignorant as to not know the difference between abject fascism. And people who, while they don’t excite us. Don’t propose a massive slide into authoritarianism and brutal repression. Or cannot feel obliged to do whatever possible to keep fascists from the levers of power. That is absolutely on us. I didn’t vote for harris. I voted against trump. Unfortunately for more people than should be acceptable wanted fascism. Or at least didn’t find it motivating enough to hold their nose and vote. Which again is on us. If we want Democrats to do better. We also need to do better.
onceuponadecember@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago