Comment on Why do we use the term Ban when it's temporary? Why not the more accurate, Suspension?
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks agoThey’re not synonymous.
You don’t suspend a customer from a bar, temporarily or permanently. Suspension implies membership, or access being limited. Your membership to a club can be suspended. Your access to Walmart can’t be. You’re banned from the store, whether for a year or a lifetime. As there’s no barrier to entry, it doesn’t make sense to suspend the privilege of access.
This is all ignoring that banning a person from a limited access club is also perfectly fine, because the definition of ban is applicable either way. There aren’t really many situations where suspension would be valid but ban wouldn’t. Maybe some small subset of privileges could be suspended where “ban” is a little weird, because general access is still permitted.
But temporary ban makes perfect sense. (Ignoring that it’s been standard terminology for 30 years.)
Steve@communick.news 3 weeks ago
That’s what I explained. “a Temporary Ban, is Suspend, not Ban.”
That’s the only thing it makes sense to suspend. What else would you suspend? (excluding the meaning of hanging something up)
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
A temporary ban is a ban.
You could suspend specific privileges within a club, without suspending all access. That’s the only case where suspension would make sense where ban would be odd.
You can’t “suspend” access when access is available to the general public. You suspend a privilege that’s not the default. It doesn’t make sense to suspend something that is the default. Taking away access requires proactively preventing it, not removing a membership.
Steve@communick.news 3 weeks ago
That’s what a “Ban” here and at reddit means. You can still access and see the sub or community, it’s only your post and comment privileges that get Suspended.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You’re missing the point. I’m saying that there are contrived situations where there are privileges that are not access that you could suspend without the word “ban” making sense.
Any case where you block access to anything for any length of time can correctly be defined as a ban.