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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoOr you can eat meat and tackle inequality. Doesn’t make a difference, ultimately, does it?
And ultimately it makes sense that if one is sacrificing eating meat for the environment, then it should be those that do the most harm to said environment that make said sacrifice first.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It makes the difference preventing the deaths of the animals and reduces water and land usage.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
where are all the animals that weren’t killed?
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t care about that. Fundamentally in my view it’s okay to kill animals to eat them because they’re tasty. I don’t think you can really change that view.
I’ll be happy to make that sacrifice, but the impact to my quality of life will be disproportional compared to the actual savings incurred since compared to a billionaire I don’t consume or produce much environmental damage in the first place.
I’m already doing the most environmentally-sound thing one can do - be child-free. I’m trans so it was gonna happen either way but I’ll claim the points. I don’t drive either, not that I wouldn’t want a gas guzzling F-150 I don’t need to barrel down the crossing by the school and grind away the plebs below, so that’s a sacrifice too.
Therefore I see no reason why I should have to do anything to cover for them until they stop polluting. Fundamentally I see no reason to “save the earth” if we don’t have an egalitarian world worth fighting for, and all indicators point in the opposite direction at the moment.
False, eating meat is one of a few good things about being alive. You may not see it that way but it’s subjective. To me it’s a very significant sacrifice and a reduction in quality of life.
I don’t really care. I’m already doing far too much for my “health”, just so the bastards up top can exploit me into my elderly years instead of being some lead poisoned boomer who just chills out off their infinite house price raises and pensions going to conspiracy conventions or whatever it is they do.
There’s nothing morally wrong with eating meat in my view to start with so I don’t view any of this as morally reprehensible, it’s a sacrifice and a pretty big one, and living the working class life I already got jack and shit, so its not unfair that we get our share first.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Pretty ignorant and arrogant of a response.
That is incredibly selfish of you to say. You need to grow up and start caring about others. You sound like a sociopath. You wouldn’t like it if people say they didn’t care about trans people. So knock it off and be better. You have no right to participate and excuse the exploitation and murder of the animals. Many people have changed their minds after they saw the horrors what the animals have gone through.
That is whaboutism distracting from the real issue… did you know that factory farms workers are exploited relentlessly and it’s often poor folks who are of colour.
I dont miss meat at all. There are plenty of tasty plant-based foods out there. You just need to try them out. Look at Turkurky, Impossible and Beyond for direct meat alternatives.
Easy to say that when you’re healthier right now when you can still participate in your own hobbies. We don’t need selfish people like you putting extra strain on the healthcare system.
Just because it is enjoyable for you does not make it okay for you to exploit others. Rape is enjoyable for the perpetrators but we all know that isn’t a legitimate excuse.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
No it isn’t. Animals aren’t people. Killing them for food is okay. Killing babies for abortion purposes is okay too. Killing people in self-defense or in a defensive war is okay.
You are the one who needs to grow up. To kill is to be human.
Yeah I do, other people, not literal farm animals.
They don’t. Majority of the population of the UK is also against all fundamental trans rights that have already been present for decades. This isn’t the same though, people aren’t fucking animals, not even trans people.
I have seen it all and I don’t care. It’s not that I don’t have that reactionary emotional response like “oh this is horrible!” It’s that I realize such a response is illogical and when mediated through some thinking actually there’s not anything wrong with killing animals for food that I can think of.
No it’s not whataboutism, do you know what whataboutism is? It’s when you shift the conversation from environmentalism to something entirely different like you just did by saying essentially “…did you know sweatshops exist” to which the answer is yes. That’s not an issue that can be solved by “voting with your wallet”.
Yes, you and I are entirely different people. I love eating meat, almost every single one of my meals has red meat and has had since I was born, while if there was anything worthwhile to sacrififce my culture and diet for I’d do it, but as it stands I’m not doing so to make the air better for billionaires.
I’ve contributed many times over my fair share to the healthcare system as an immigrant and now as a net tax contributor. If boomers can be a strain on it despite doing fuck all for anyone, then so can I, and I can’t wait.
Rape is wrong because it’s a violent act performed without a person’s consent.
Picking up my cat off my desk where he shouldn’t go without his consent is okay, because he’s not a person to begin with.
Eating animals without their consent is thus, okay, because they’re animals, not “others”, the food chain isn’t fucking rape jesus goddamn christ get a fucking grip.
Honestly how fucking dare you use rape for your own soapbox vegan preaching?
Go touch grass you absolute lunatic.
Eat a burger or something, get the juices flowing in your starved brain and fucking think before you write next time, nutter.