The fact is that the Israeli government chose to respond to actions of a few dozen people
You know the hamas charter explicitly outlines their desire to wipe israel off the map, from the river to the sea? remember? and they were elected by the Palestinian people who btw still poll numbers for Hamas that the greens dream of getting
You quote “a few dozen people”, it’s clear where your thought process lies and i’m not sure we’re living in the same reality, especially after witnessing the actions of “a few dozen” taliban for the last 20 years
i’m not discussing this further, i don’t have enough interest in this
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
LIAR
The attacks began early on 7 October with a barrage of at least 4,300 rockets launched into Israel[31][32][33] and vehicle-transported and powered paraglider incursions into Israel.[34][35] Hamas fighters breached the Gaza–Israel barrier, attacking military bases and massacring civilians in 21 communities, including Be’eri, Kfar Aza, Nir Oz, Netiv Haasara, and Alumim. According to an IDF report that revised the estimate on the number of attackers**, 6,000 Gazans breached the border in 119 locations **into Israel, including 3,800 from the “elite Nukhba forces” and 2,200 civilians and other militants.
Hamas attack comprised six thousands of terrorists, many of whom live streamed the joy and pride they took in raping, torturing and murdering
and Hamas in Gaza comprised many tens of thousands of terrorists
DropBear@theblower.au 4 weeks ago
Meanwhile, back in the real world @Seagoon_
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-for-benjamin-netanyahu/104633044
The fact is that the vast majority of death, destruction and terror in the region have been inflicted by Israel and its Zionist progenitors. Zionists were the original middle-east terrorists and remain the most murderous.
@Joshi
#Zionism
#Palestine
#Israel
#genocide
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity#lawfare
#terrorism
Joshi@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
Again. I am answering in good faith assuming you will do the same.
I am perfectly willing to concede that I may have understated the size of the initial attacks and for the sake of argument I will concede your claim that there are 10s of thousands of Hamas terrorists in Gaza.
The issue at stake here is that at least 180,000 civilians have been killed to say nothing of the injuries and other traumas. The IDF has deliberately targeted civilian populations who had nothing to do with the attacks.
Again, I may not be opposed to a proportionate response but to killing hundreds of thousands in response to what you claim was a crime of 6000 people is not proportionate, it is brutal and unnecessary and likely to be counterproductive to any hopes of reducing violence from either side in the future.
Do you have a position on this specially? Do you deny the death toll, or do you assume that all 180,000 killed were terrorists?
I am genuinely interested in your response.