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4grams@awful.systems 1 week agoAgain, all you assholes think I’m upset about not voting for democrats. Vote for people, vote for issues, vote for the greater good. I have pulled the lever for both parties and independents, in the same election even
What im pissed about has nothing to do with party, its whiney assholes who think that their special feels issue is more important than preventing an open fascist from taking power.
I don’t care if turnip was a democrat, republican, alien, cat, slime mold or the actual god he believes himself to be, he’s going to destroy this nation and has told us all how. He’s going to deport millions, take away human rights, further destruction rich himself and his friends, he’s objectively worse on all the international fronts, letting Ukraine and Gaza be wiped out. Now, I don’t care for a second that this ight not come to pass, it’s all been promised and a bunch of selfish assholes wouldn’t stop it because they weren’t pandered enough to.
Yes, I am literally angry that this nation chose fascism over status quo. The nation and world is fucked because people aren’t willing to put in the work, to put aside their feelings for the greater good. I do not, apologize, not feel guilty for feeling this way. I’m angry with the American public, mostly men (largely because I am one and can see the forest for the trees).
a bunch of selfish assholes wouldn’t stop it because they weren’t pandered enough to.
Yeahhhhh, once again the people you are slinging mud at did not vote for Trump. And please think about calling other people selfish assholes because they did not do as you did for the next (if there is one) election, it might help.
I am hot, I am upset, but again, it’s pretty obvious what my target is here. It’s not just the folks who did this it’s the ones who are refusing to learn from it and in fact give in to the exact same problem that got us here.
“I won’t ever vote for a democrat again” is the same team bullshit that to us here. And bolstered by the revenge bullshit for not being grateful. That is TOXIC, and that is the sort of thinking that got us here.
This is the internet, we swear here.
It’s not just the folks who did this it’s the ones who are refusing to learn from it and in fact give in to the exact same problem that got us here.
Yes, this we agree on. To bad we think its different people who refuse to learn. After all you want people to do the same thing (swallowing pride and voting Dems) every 4 years over and over. It was not about being “grateful” it was and is about treating people like pre-villans and then getting mad when they don’t support your cause.
But hey, if you want to alienate people, go right on ahead and turn on your former allies. I am sure it will never come up that you might need 15 million or so of them.
I can swear all I want, but you will not catch me calling someone “TOXIC” for not agreeing with me.
No, I do not ant anyone to o swallow pride you done moron. I have said repeatedly that you should vote for issues, and the greater good regardless of party. What I am arguing against is an asshole who said that because he wasn’t thanked enough that they can burn next time because he won’t vote for their team anymore.
Yeah, I’ve been an asshole myself here, I’m a random angry internet jerk who’s pissed off about the election, but to be frank more pissed off at work he selfish sort of behavior that got us here. It’s not the democrats, it’s not the republicans, it’s not the Green Party, it’s the people who voted for them.
Ok, so we’re at an impasse here. I do not find this line of thinking defensible and I do think this is the words of an asshole:
“Saving the nation from fascism and preserving their own rights, freedoms and lives in the process wasn’t a good enough reason to speak to people like me with respect. And now they can burn for it. And they’re going to blame me for it, just like they’ve blamed me for everything their entire lives.”
I’m in that exact same boat but I don’t give one single shit about not being thanked, nor for being blamed. Maybe it’s because I am a father and I don’t really live for myself but doesn’t matter because it’s not something that makes me feel bad. Men are a problem, men should do better, and they should do it because they are good, not because they deserve it, or they want thanks. Doing the good is the reward. My life’s guiding principal is the old Paul Wellstone canard: “we all do better when we all do better”. In the end, I’m just as selfish as everyone else because ultimately I’m after my own happiness and fascism, suffering, exploitation, cheating, etc. is antithetical to it.
I can already hear responses, yes both sides are terrible but one was UNDENIABLY far, far worse.
I don’t see the words of an asshole, just a frustrated voter who taking the blame for something they voted to stop. If you read the quote you used you can see that they are calling out the problem they think cost the Dems the election, namely treating people like them with respect. They like anyone else expects to be treated with a bit of respect, and your response is to what? Prove them justified?
I’m in that exact same boat but I don’t give one single shit about not being thanked, nor for being blamed.
But you clearly do. I am not saying both sides are terrible (not sure why you are imagining the other half of a conversation), I am saying the US is in this mess partly due to this toxic bullshit about “Men are a problem, men should do better, and they should do it because they are good, not because they deserve it, or they want thanks.”
There is only so much you can expect any demographic to do counter to their own interests before they do what you see above, give up and say fuck it. You are now going to double down and place blame on (lets see if I remember this right) frustrated reluctant Harris voters?
DO YOU WANT TO BE GOVERNED BY A FASCIST? BECAUSE THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. (did it)
You don’t, I do. Maybe it’s because similar language was used in an attempted assault against me today…
People deserve respect because of actions, not transactions.
bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
Greater good or lesser evil?