Comment on US Democracy
4grams@awful.systems 1 week agohuh?
where in anything I ever said did I even mention one party or anything? This is because reactionary idiots don’t do research and/or don’t care enough about others when their special little feels get squishy… boo hoo…
I’m not a democrat, I very nearly didn’t vote because I couldn’t get behind either candidate but in the end it was a VERY easy choice given the realities of the situation. we now have a man, who is publically traded on the stock market, who praises dictators and authoritarians, who’s sworn revenge on political enemies, who’s plans are to deport millions, free a bunch of his violent supporters, destroy the economy with the dumbest economic plan in history because of this shitshow of an election. you could see it, I could see it, it was all there and obvious and you chucklefucks are sitting here complaining about your feels.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 week ago
Ok you are upset because you think someone voted for one of only two parties counter to your “VERY easy choice” and that would leave only one option. That would mean a single “correct” way to vote, the same stance the Dems took in 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Lets walk though this, You are getting upset that when people talk about voters of a demographic not feeling represented by one of only two parties someone steps up to give their own personal example. The same party that just lost to what is clearly a fascist due in part to not getting the vote of above demographic. You instead start slinging shit to someone for even thinking about not voting “the right way” (see above how they say “2024 was the last time I will ever vote for a democrat”) by laughably calling them a snowflake or a reactionary idiot (I guess this could also be me) instead of even pretending to read what you are replying to.
Neither myself (not from the USA) or the person above voted for Trump. The point I am pressing here is that the person who is getting their “special little feels get squishy… boo hoo…” seems to be you. You are advocating what? Shut up and take my guilt? Feel bad about living in a nation that given a choice between the status quo and fascism chose fascism chose fascism?
4grams@awful.systems 1 week ago
Again, all you assholes think I’m upset about not voting for democrats. Vote for people, vote for issues, vote for the greater good. I have pulled the lever for both parties and independents, in the same election even
What im pissed about has nothing to do with party, its whiney assholes who think that their special feels issue is more important than preventing an open fascist from taking power.
I don’t care if turnip was a democrat, republican, alien, cat, slime mold or the actual god he believes himself to be, he’s going to destroy this nation and has told us all how. He’s going to deport millions, take away human rights, further destruction rich himself and his friends, he’s objectively worse on all the international fronts, letting Ukraine and Gaza be wiped out. Now, I don’t care for a second that this ight not come to pass, it’s all been promised and a bunch of selfish assholes wouldn’t stop it because they weren’t pandered enough to.
Yes, I am literally angry that this nation chose fascism over status quo. The nation and world is fucked because people aren’t willing to put in the work, to put aside their feelings for the greater good. I do not, apologize, not feel guilty for feeling this way. I’m angry with the American public, mostly men (largely because I am one and can see the forest for the trees).
bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Greater good or lesser evil?
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 week ago
Yeahhhhh, once again the people you are slinging mud at did not vote for Trump. And please think about calling other people selfish assholes because they did not do as you did for the next (if there is one) election, it might help.
4grams@awful.systems 1 week ago
I am hot, I am upset, but again, it’s pretty obvious what my target is here. It’s not just the folks who did this it’s the ones who are refusing to learn from it and in fact give in to the exact same problem that got us here.
“I won’t ever vote for a democrat again” is the same team bullshit that to us here. And bolstered by the revenge bullshit for not being grateful. That is TOXIC, and that is the sort of thinking that got us here.
This is the internet, we swear here.
4grams@awful.systems 1 week ago
Ok, so we’re at an impasse here. I do not find this line of thinking defensible and I do think this is the words of an asshole:
“Saving the nation from fascism and preserving their own rights, freedoms and lives in the process wasn’t a good enough reason to speak to people like me with respect. And now they can burn for it. And they’re going to blame me for it, just like they’ve blamed me for everything their entire lives.”
I’m in that exact same boat but I don’t give one single shit about not being thanked, nor for being blamed. Maybe it’s because I am a father and I don’t really live for myself but doesn’t matter because it’s not something that makes me feel bad. Men are a problem, men should do better, and they should do it because they are good, not because they deserve it, or they want thanks. Doing the good is the reward. My life’s guiding principal is the old Paul Wellstone canard: “we all do better when we all do better”. In the end, I’m just as selfish as everyone else because ultimately I’m after my own happiness and fascism, suffering, exploitation, cheating, etc. is antithetical to it.
I can already hear responses, yes both sides are terrible but one was UNDENIABLY far, far worse.