Comment on Why is everyone so giddy about the flooding thay happened at burning man?

• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  OP: One person died! It’s a tragedy!

  Turns out that’s a better mortality rate than outside the event, not much of a tragedy, more of them would have died if they hadn’t went to the event!

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  • syllabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Outside the event includes people in their 90s dying of old age in hospitals

    Generally the demographic that attends burning man skews younger which is inherently less likely to die

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I included a link to the real stats and just with people up to their 40s the mortality rate is high enough that you would expect more people to die during that week.

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  • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a much higher mortality rate than the average event. More people died at this event then most events.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One event with 70k in attendance lasting a whole week with the same people in attendance all week and they can’t leave. There aren’t many events that can be compared to it and the fact that it takes place during an event doesn’t matter for this comparison as we’re trying to see how many of these people would have died if the event hadn’t taken place at all.

      Heck it could be considered good for the organizers, they should have had many deaths by that point considering the average mortality rate of the people present, they only had one!

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      • WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        LOL you’re really running with this line of thinking. Might people who plan to go to a week-long strenuous event in the desert lead to a sample that has some selection bias? For instance, selecting out the entirety of the demographic that is currently hospitalized, currently debilitating ill?

        In which cause you should compare mortality rates with another group like that. Not the entire rest of the age demographic (which has all those sick people you selected out).

        I don’t really care either way, just found this argument kind of hilarious.

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      • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        the fact that it takes place during an event doesn’t matter for this comparison as we’re trying to see how many of these people would have died if the event hadn’t taken place at all.

        Then you must be ignoring information to show the truth that you want the data to show. Events need to abide by strict OH&S guidelines. If an injury or death occurs due to the negligence of the event planners, they need to be held accountable. This means that a death at an event should be compared to other events because day-to-day life isn’t governed by OH&S.

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      • cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I saw a long post about this on tumblr and they were saying something like, one person dies a year on the playa at burning man so we shouldn’t feel sorry for the one person who died this year.

        So dehumanizing. I was reading that whole post in awe of how fucking empty some people are inside. Like holy shit that’s cruel.

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    • Niggling__Niggard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You could just pledge to save lives instead…

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