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hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 month agoI feel you’re being disrespectful of my viewpoints, and intentionally being obstinate in refusing to understand them.
I am mad about toxic behavior that is justified by liberal rhetoric. It is more egregious when it comes to sexism, but that is not the only issue. These behaviors are upsetting to watch, and it is frustrating to live in an environment where this is not only justified but portrayed as moral.
This post is about the real world. As in, in person social interactions. That limits your options, and means you have to on some tolerate things that frustrate you or become a hermit.
I live in a city of moderate liberals. I am a nerdy college educated millennial. While I have made a choice to avoid the worst of it after witnessing a lot of things that just crossed the line for me, on some level I simply have to live with elements of liberal culture that I find toxic.
I have no idea where you live that you can find people that perfectly match your political/moral philosophy in such numbers where it’s possible to meet people and strike up friendships, but let me assure you that isn’t how it works where I live.
A lot of my friends are good people overall, but do or believe at least one thing that frustrates me. I consider that part of life. However there’s some line I have to draw. In my experience the type of people who are extremely vocal about being liberal and how morally awful conservatives behave in really shitty ways, but get away with it by leveraging progressive rhetoric.
I have made a decision that on some level that rhetoric is bullshit, and to not involve myself with people who do things that I think are beyond the pale regardless of their justification. That by definition means rejecting or displaying extreme skepticism in regards to some parts of liberal culture. Hence the “more conservative”. You seem hung up on the words conservative, so you can use the term “less liberal” if it makes you feel better. I am friends with a grand total of person who defines themselves as conservative in absolute terms.
meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 month ago
dude, you’re complaining about women denigrating men by making an argument that denigrates women in exactly the same way you’re complaining about women doing it. You stand up for what you see as the losing side, just as they do. You’re no better than they are. And that’s not me taking sides, that’s just what this argument boils down to.
Perhaps picking your battles and searching for the root of your beliefs, so you can express something meaningful without coming off like a raging sexist (their words, not mine), would make it a lot easier to broach this topic with your liberal community in a more rational manner. People are going to criticize you, that’s part of having beliefs, but presumably there are other things you agree with these people, meaning there must be a common foundation between your ideas which stands up to criticism and can be a means to a mutually beneficial end.
hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 month ago
At this point you’re clearly intentionally more representing what I’m saying so you don’t have to question your own beliefs in the slightest.
meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Lmao if you project any harder you’ll go blind.