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Also, Israel is currently committing a genocide inasmuch as they have militarily invaded an area, bombed it into and its inhabitants into oblivion, killing far, far more civilian casualties than combatant, with multiple instances of designating safe areas for civilians to flee to and then bombing the fuck out of them weeks later.

But that’s not genocide. That’s warfare, in an urban environment, prosecuted (as military observers all agree) with the maximum possible degree of protection for the civilian population. That’s what it looks like!

Israelis in Gaza continue to suffer, bleed, and die on behalf of Gazans, as a result of taking greater risks than they need to in order to avoid extreme civilian harm.

Oh, and they’re also causing a famine by not allowing food in

But that’s false. Not only are they allowing food in, they’ve increased food aid since Oct 11, the start of the operation in Gaza. 3500 calories per person per day - that’s more calories per person than in Luxembourg.

Can you answer my question? What’s “evil” about labeling a death a “collateral casualty” when that’s the proper term for a casualty that occurs incidental to the military action?

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sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

That’s warfare, in an urban environment, prosecuted (as military observers all agree) with the maximum possible degree of protection for the civilian population

Other than the IPCC and ICJ and basically the entire world and even members of the Biden admin so disgusted by whats going on that they resigned in protest, sure!

We all know the maximally safe thing to do is to carpet bomb the designated safe zone civillians were instructed to flee to.

We all know the best way to get your hostages back is to blow up buildings they might be in with a fucking tank cannon at point blank, because the hannibal doctrine of killing hostages that are too difficult to extract is more expedient.

How could it be the case that Israel is both feeding Palestinians and “genociding” them?

It isn’t. You believe a lie. Everyone other than Israel themselves has been claiming and reporting on Israel is saying they are allowing food in when they actually are not.

Anyway, you’re very obviously an idiot, troll, hasbarah clown, or some combination of those.

It’s been fun, toodles.

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- crashfrog@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Other than the IPCC and ICJ and basically the entire world and even members of the Biden admin so disgusted by whats going on that they resigned in protest, sure!
  
  When would they have previously seen social media from intense urban warfare? Soldiers in the second Iraq war didn’t have phones.
  
  But simply being shocked by the reality of warfare is not evidence of war crimes. It’s evidence that war is shocking.
  
  We all know the best way to get your hostages back is to blow up buildings they might be in with a fucking tank cannon at point blank, because the hannibal doctrine of killing hostages that are too difficult to extract is more expedient
  
  That’s not an IDF doctrine, though. The Hannibal doctrine is merely to prevent, if possible, the enemies of Israel from taking hostages. How does that differ from any other nation? The US doesn’t allow hostage-taking, either. Neither do they where you live.
  
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