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LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is why I hate the way the media and people talk about these issues. Here you say Lebanon, but the title is talking about Hezbollah. But honestly I’m sure Israel looks at it as Hezboollah is just a part of Lebanon. Why isn’t Israel allowed to defend itself from missiles being launched from Lebanon.

  I mean it’s a legitimate political group in Lebanon that’s firing missiles at Israel. Why is that considered okay, what is Israel supposed to do?

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  • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Neither is ok of course. The thing is that Israel had an overwhelming military and economic advantage for decades. The strategy should have been to aid in democratization, education and prosperity of the occupied Palestinian territories and neighboring countries. Propaganda is an incredibly powerful tool and they could have used it to de-radicalize Palestinians and create a peaceful 1 or 2 state solution. They’ve had decades to do this. But they did the opposite.

    Part of it is I believe the US geopolitical strategy. The USA does NOT like democracy in countries it wants to exploit. This isn’t ideology it’s just a result of playing imperialist games. Imagine countries with oil and resources were democratic and educated, they’d want to own and control their own resources instead of accepting all this despotism and corruption. See Saudi Arabia.

    And of course, see Iran. They had a democratic society and when they wanted to “renegotiate” the oil deals in 1953 the UK and USA created a coup and put a dictator in charge (the shah) to continue to exploit cheap oil. You sometimes see this propaganda of how modern Iran was in the 1960 under the Shah, but there was also repression and torture in prisons. Iran’s theocracy today has a guardian council that is I believe partially structure the way it is to prevent foreign influence or NGOs (the modern tool to create color revolutions). Of course Iran and other groups fight back, and one of their tools is Hezbollah.

    Israel serves as a client state of the US to help control the middle east, and partially their strategy is to keep them unstable, to have the right amount of extremism and repression and poverty and suffering so they can be ruled through force alone.

    Socialists call the USA fascist long before Trump because they do not see people in other countries as equal or “worthy” of democracy or prosperity. So from that viewpoint Israel’s policy was fascist long before Netanyahu. At some point they killed of most of their Kibbuzihm which was their socialist base.

    And all this is the reason why propaganda is presenting this as a pure “good vs evil” conflict instead of the brutal and cruel calculus of power or imperialism using very sophisticated strategies and tools.

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