Comment on Lemmings who downvote news posts because you disagree with the conclusions, why?

Conyak@lemmy.tf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Izzgo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  To me, a downvote on a posted article suggests it doesn't belong where it was posted, or the article is itself bogus, something along those lines. But (again, in my opinion) comments are fair game for downvotes if you disagree, and I will also do so if I disagree vehemently. But if you don't want to actually add something to the discussion, no vote is really needed. Maybe you ultimately disagree with a post or comment, but it gave you something to think about? If so, the comment contributed positively to the discussion.

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• brewbellyblueberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I see the whole system as kind of flawed, like. If I think some topic or post is total bullshit and frankly, wrong, I’m supposed to comment to disagree with it, driving it further up in activity. So let’s imagine a platform where everyone uses the system “how they’re supposed to” and there’s a post about blatant bullshit, supporting nazi ideology or some shit like that and it’s dressed in the clothes of a well-mannered, discussion provoking post, and it gets a billion comments all disagreeing and it gets to the most active posts just because of this. When if it was downvoted, it’d just be more ignored the more people disagree with it.

  I get the intention behind the reasoning for it, but it just doesn’t work like that, because the whole system is flawed. The most active posts would be filled with thinly veiled and not so thinly veiled, even clever, ragebait and bullshit.

  As much as I hate to see “tHe hIvEmInD” and brigaders to flood posts and comments with actual, relevant conversation and takes, with this system we’re just gonna have to deal with it I guess.

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  • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If a Nazi expresses their opinion in a civil manner and lots of other people express why they disagree with it, then… what exactly is the problem with the post getting attention?

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    • brewbellyblueberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why give a nazi the stage? Why raise their opinions there? The points are and have been expressed in a civil manner for at least a century.

      “If a holocaust denialist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention”

      “If a pedophile expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention”

      “If a rapist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view more attention”

      “If a misogynist/misandrist expresses their opinion in a civil manner why not give their point of view attention”

      If this is seriously an issue you have a dilemma with I have nothing further to say to you.

      These kinds of points of view get enough attention as it is. No one needs to give them any more.

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      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because if you use force to suppress people’s opinions instead of rationally arguing with them, it gives the impression that they may have a good point.

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