Comment on My thoughts on Hexbear. Posting as the megathread was locked.

• randint@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  what kind of mentality is this? “I’m being hostile to you because you deserve it.”

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  • Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It comes from a disregard of Civility politics. So often Liberals will come to us with bad faith, poorly researched takes, and demand an argument.

    Hexbear generally embodies a disrespect for the civility politics and bad faith concern trolls. As an instance we typically act as a single unified unit, which is rare for an online community.

    It’s nothing personal, but a lot of the members are very well read in theory and history, and propagate that to other users with well sourced arguments. If someone comes in and demands that their propaganda based opinion is the only truth, some will try good faith reasoning. If that good faith attempt is lambasted as being a bot/troll/brigade after effort put in to educate, we’ll become hostile.

    An internet argument is rarely for the participants, but for the people lurking through. Often times, this method is effective at getting people to question the generally accepted narrative.

    I hope you have a good day and please consider logging off for a bit. It’s really nothing personal.

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  • Commiejones@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bigotry deserves nothing but chiding derision. Bad faith gets met with bad faith. How is that hard to understand?

    “I’m being hostile to you because you deserve it.”

    That isn’t what I said. Cause and effect can’t just be swapped around all willy-nilly like that. This is called gaslighting when its done intentionally but when its done unintentionally it can often be a sign of a personality disorder.

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    • WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is called gaslighting when its done intentionally but when its done unintentionally it can often be a sign of a personality disorder.

      IDK, armchair diagnosing someone like this comes across as ableist.

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      • Commiejones@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Maybe a bit. Is it abelist to point at bones sticking out of someone’s leg and say “you might have a broken leg?” I’m not saying op does have a personality disorder but the causality switching thing is a red flag to me due to past situations.

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    • HornyOnMain@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Like I agree with most of that but the “This is called gaslighting when its done intentionally but when its done unintentionally it can often be a sign of a personality disorder.” is a bad take

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  • booty@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does no one deserve hostility? I think there are many people who deserve hostile treatment. Are we to sit around and politely chat with nazis? No, fuck 'em, verbal abuse is the least they deserve.

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