Comment on My thoughts on Hexbear. Posting as the megathread was locked.
SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 10 months ago
I suppose the parallels to this being a shitty plagiarized version of “Iraq WMDs” from 20 years ago, conveniently involving a Muslim-majority province of China with known oil reserves above that of Iraq, major BRI routes running through it, deposits of lithium and other minerals, ETIM and ISIS activity (and known US involvement) until 2016, are all purely coincidental then?
Xinjiang was actually largely left behind and destitute until Xi Jinping became chairman in 2013. Widespread poverty and neighbouring Afghanistan under fire from US and UK bombings also didn’t help matters. Since then, according to the Xinjiang White Papers, there is no metric suggesting anything resembling a genocide. Wages, life expectancy, literacy, living standards have all increased. There is plenty of Uyghur culture on display in China, a HSR connects Xinjiang to the rest of China from the city of Urumqi (though a route should be alao extended to Aksu and Kashgar IMO) and they still learn not only their Uyghur language, but Mandarin on top of that, allowing them to better integrate with society at large. I’ve heard people say that Xinjiang has the best food, so there’s also that.
Oh and allegedly, the people in Xinjiang are among the most anti-West in China. If that’s true, gee I can’t imagine why…
Absurdist@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Could you address the comments about the UN report? It claims severe human rights breaches and possible crimes against humanity. I’d be interested to hear an explanation.
SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 10 months ago
Was on the way home and in the time, some good responses already. But on my take: Much of the world, including Muslim-majority nations, support China’s policies in Xinjiang and as predictable as posting pigpoopballs, the :international-community: “condemns” it. I think it’s also very telling when Isnotreal suddenly comes out of the woodwork “condemning” China’s actions in Xinjiang, literally while footage of Gaza getting bombed and journalists shot down is broadcast to every telly in Johannesburg.
Anyways, going through the UNHRC report, there is not one mention of “genocide”, “forced labour” is merely followed by “allegations of” and there is a passage on China ratifying laws abolishing the practice a decade ago. Even allegations of “crimes against humanity” is an ambiguous “may”. So in summary, it’s merely allegations and no conclusive findings. There is a critique on the UN report (as well as other topics related to Xinjiang) available on Qiao Collective.
Absurdist@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I’m really having difficulty in understanding your post (I don’t know what isnotreal, pigpoopballs or a CRH380A is). It seems that you’re saying that because the UN report was not definitive that crimes against humanity are being committed, all of its findings can be ignored?
SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 10 months ago
The report is at best, “allegations” or “possible”. Nothing’s really definitive in it, as in no conclusive findings, yet it’s supported by western (mostly American) anti-China hawks. So yes, it could be ignored. As for the first part,
CRH380A is a high-speed train in China.
Isnotreal is a specific Apartheid ethostate that is occupying and terrorizing Palestine.
pigpoopballs is this: :PIGPOOPBALLS:
booty@hexbear.net 10 months ago
This comment addressed that pretty well.