Comment on Trump advisor LOSES HIS MIND when confronted by foreign journalist

• Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  (although, obviously he is but I can’t be bothered to dredge up all that BS)

  I clearly agree with you. The point is that his argument “Kamala is abusing her mixed heritage to pander to those audiences” is the best way to interpret the argument to come to rational conclusions.

  In my counter-argument I simply state the premises: The candidates job is to win (implied), both candidates are pandering to their heritage, and accusations of pandering are an unpersuasive form criticism as it is expected from rational voters. Therefore, I do not find his complaint that her pandering is unfair, abusive or even remotely persuasive to vote for him instead.

  If you want to pile on a rhetorical argument that he is racist and shouldn’t be voted for you’d be preaching to the choir, but as you can see accusing your arguer of being racist is both irrelevant and counter-productive to coming to the same conclusion in the end.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No it isn’t. The best way to interpret that argument to come to the rational conclusion is to interpret is AS RACIST.

    Jesus Christ you are bending over backward to not make an obviously racist comment, which he has since repeated after being called out on the racism, is not racist. He literally did it at the debate. There is nothing irrelevant or counter-productive about saying what is true.

    And if you agree that he is a racist, I have no idea why you are being so charitable to the extremely racist thing he keeps repeating.

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    • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because I prefer rational arguments as they are the best ones for elucidating Truth, not appeals to emotional ones. I’d rather know I was right for good reasons than just join the mob right or not. In this case anyone could have accused Kamala of ‘being black’ and I could refute it without needing to racism claims into it.

      Interesting that you use the word ‘charitable’ as the Principle of Charity is literally what I’m talking about.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Cool. The truth is he said something racist.

        Stop sealioning.

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