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carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Classifying parts of religion you don’t like because you have to “combat terrorism” and assimilate your colonized population… where have I heard that one before…

Condoning radical parts of religion because forbidding them reminds of the cultural genocide that’s happening at home

And making it look like a classic Chinese temple instead of an Uyghur one? Cultural preservation in full force.

Imagine the headlines if left alone and the collapsing building kills a worshiper

Wearing a long beard? Terrorism!

The less radical Imam not falling into the western narrative in the video you linked to says that no religious repression is happening and denies that beards are banned. BBC provides no evidence and just points at a random ripped paper and says beards are banned because it says so there lol Instead you link me a video showing me how

Thanks for the video you shared. How do you like the timestamp, where the youtuber “sees 4-5 mosques just walking around the city center” and concludes “you can’t say that there aren’t any mosques here”. Which he concludes the same thing again further down the video you posted. youtu.be/dHxzLogzqkU?feature=shared&t=2085

How do you not see the contradiction, that you say cultural genocide, yet you can see arabic written all over the buildings in your own provided link? Poor guy couldnt fly his drone over the mosque. Have you tried flying a drone over a synagogue in any western country?

At least read the context I provided you earlier www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

The less radical Imam not falling into the western narrative in the video you linked to says that no religious repression is happening and denies that beards are banned.

everyone just randomly “quit because there’s jobs now” that makes total sense. And everyone cut their beards too just for fun. Let’s read your link and find out

www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

This is from your link:

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I believe this is the full document

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Beards:

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Your link wants to reference article 14 which focuses on re-education but the preceding one doesn’t look great.

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So to summarize, according to your link the ‘comeback’ to Chinese law classifying people with beards as extremists… Is not that it’s not happening but that ‘they will be taught the correct beliefs’.

where the youtuber “sees 4-5 mosques just walking around the city center” and concludes “you can’t say that there aren’t any mosques here

Yes there are. The heavy military guarding around the area is what’s very noteworthy. If there’s a lot of dudes with guns arresting people who practice their religion that will intimidate people into not practicing it. Combine this with the knowledge of the “vocational camps” and it’s pretty obvious there’s something fishy going on.This is what I mean with gradual crackdown on religion.

The excuse that there’s still mosques flies about as well as saying Algeria still has mosques so France didn’t do cultural Genocide there. The CCP has been pretty open about wanting to crack down on religion as the Xi statement about Maxrism (also 2017 what a coincidence) suggested.

The BadEmpanada analysis video on Xinjiang was the best I have seen so far. Especially this testimony in which the “coerced acting” of China is pretty well highlighted

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- carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  You have to prove cultural genocide is happening, not the ban of beards. Put your efford there.
  
  Yes there are. The heavy military guarding around the area is what’s very noteworthy.
  
  Heavily militarized synagogues in western countries means that it’s with the knowledge of “the genocide in palestine” and pretty obvious there’s something fishy going on. This is what I mean with gradual crackdown on religion. Sorry I cannot take you serious here.
  
  Your link wants to reference article 14 which focuses on re-education but the preceding one doesn’t look great
  
  What’s your approach on how to deal with people that go stabbing people around them and are supported by your geopolitical rival?
  
  BadEmpanada A single testimony
  
  I’m going to take you even less serious now and choose not to continue this conversation anymore.
  
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  - Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    You have to prove cultural genocide is happening, not the ban of beards. Put your efford there.
    
    You were the one claiming there was no beard ban because it’s a “vague piece of paper on a door”,
    
    Another argument debunked another goalpost moved.
    
    There’s multiple testimonies in the video you obviously didn’t watch. Of course it also includes the visits to the concentration camps which very clearly exist and are very real.
    
    Far too much evidence to deny there’s nothing going on so a great point for you to pretend that the person which just spent time reading your worthless links is now ‘not serious’.
    
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    carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    Another argument debunked another goalpost moved.
    
    You haven’t addressed how
    
    Far too much evidence to deny
    
    Far little context taken into account
    
    the person which just spent time reading your worthless links is now ‘not serious’.
    
    No because if youd have looked at the “worthless” link you’d know that the primary sources BE provides are contextualized there already.
    
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