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• carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cultural Genocide is not equal to full on literal israel style delete everyone you don’t like.

  Not what I was saying. I was saying that the same voices that say a “cultural genocide” is happening in China, are saying no genocide (not cultural, but the actual extermination of people) is happening in Palestine.

  Altering appearances of mosques to make them appear Chinese is an incredibly visually obvious step to slow-boiling the frog.

  Or you know, altering the building in a way it doesn’t crash on its worshipers i.e. renovating.

  Sinicization involves aligning religion to Chinese culture, and can also extend to adherence to the nation’s political ideology and rules.

  Like any fucking religion has to adhere to their host country. Basically it means if your interpretation of Islam is some radical shit where go stab random ass people you can get lost like they did with the western backed ETIM (Based)

  Also you seem to have a very narrow understanding of culture. You haven’t addressed even how the language and cultural practices aren’t banned. Slow boiling the frog my ass

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  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Classifying parts of religion you don’t like because you have to “combat terrorism” and assimilate your colonized population… where have I heard that one before…

    Or you know, altering the building in a way it doesn’t crash on its worshipers i.e. renovating.

    And making it look like a classic Chinese temple instead of an Uyghur one? Cultural preservation in full force.

    Wearing a long beard? Terrorism!

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    • carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Classifying parts of religion you don’t like because you have to “combat terrorism” and assimilate your colonized population… where have I heard that one before…

      Condoning radical parts of religion because forbidding them reminds of the cultural genocide that’s happening at home

      And making it look like a classic Chinese temple instead of an Uyghur one? Cultural preservation in full force.

      Imagine the headlines if left alone and the collapsing building kills a worshiper

      Wearing a long beard? Terrorism!

      The less radical Imam not falling into the western narrative in the video you linked to says that no religious repression is happening and denies that beards are banned. BBC provides no evidence and just points at a random ripped paper and says beards are banned because it says so there lol Instead you link me a video showing me how

      Thanks for the video you shared. How do you like the timestamp, where the youtuber “sees 4-5 mosques just walking around the city center” and concludes “you can’t say that there aren’t any mosques here”. Which he concludes the same thing again further down the video you posted. youtu.be/dHxzLogzqkU?feature=shared&t=2085

      How do you not see the contradiction, that you say cultural genocide, yet you can see arabic written all over the buildings in your own provided link? Poor guy couldnt fly his drone over the mosque. Have you tried flying a drone over a synagogue in any western country?

      At least read the context I provided you earlier www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

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      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The less radical Imam not falling into the western narrative in the video you linked to says that no religious repression is happening and denies that beards are banned.

        everyone just randomly “quit because there’s jobs now” that makes total sense. And everyone cut their beards too just for fun. Let’s read your link and find out

        www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

        This is from your link:

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        I believe this is the full document

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        Beards:

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        Your link wants to reference article 14 which focuses on re-education but the preceding one doesn’t look great.

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        So to summarize, according to your link the ‘comeback’ to Chinese law classifying people with beards as extremists… Is not that it’s not happening but that ‘they will be taught the correct beliefs’.

        where the youtuber “sees 4-5 mosques just walking around the city center” and concludes “you can’t say that there aren’t any mosques here

        Yes there are. The heavy military guarding around the area is what’s very noteworthy. If there’s a lot of dudes with guns arresting people who practice their religion that will intimidate people into not practicing it. Combine this with the knowledge of the “vocational camps” and it’s pretty obvious there’s something fishy going on.This is what I mean with gradual crackdown on religion.

        The excuse that there’s still mosques flies about as well as saying Algeria still has mosques so France didn’t do cultural Genocide there. The CCP has been pretty open about wanting to crack down on religion as the Xi statement about Maxrism (also 2017 what a coincidence) suggested.

        The BadEmpanada analysis video on Xinjiang was the best I have seen so far. Especially this testimony in which the “coerced acting” of China is pretty well highlighted

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