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Internally reach consensus to segregate themselves, then brigade the fediverse whole with content that allowed the majority to believe it was their choice.

Hexbear was the only lemmy for 4 years, over that time their code base diverged, it took a few months to make federation possible again. There was never a consensus on whether HB should be segregated, a lot of users opposed federation over concerns about harassment or just valuing one of the few leftist communities. The end result was slow federation, with users suggesting specific instances to federate with, and instances getting defederated if the admins failed to take adequate action against transphobes/chasers.

hexbear community is well aware that the majority is better off not yet knowing what they believe

Half this thread is hexbears and others telling people exactly what they believe about random topics. If you doubt that, Hexbear has 4 years of history and a search function.

Many expected such actions as it was an obvious moral and ethical imperative that lacked internal leadership support.

What are you talking about?

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SirDerpy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Hexbear was the only lemmy for 4 years, over that time their code base diverged, it took a few months to make federation possible again… a lot of users opposed federation concerns about harassment or just valuing one of the few leftist communities. The end result was slow federation, with users suggesting specific instances to federate with, and instances getting defederated if the admins failed to take adequate action against transphobes/chasers.

Now there’s two of us that are speaking truth.

Half this thread is hexbears and others telling people exactly what they believe about random topics.

Are they? That wouldn’t be thematically consistent with their years of telling others what they’d like to hear for their entertainment. Their culture is selfish in that way.

There was never a consensus on whether HB should be segregated

There was never formal consensus in that leadership repeatedly denied the vote, favoring a granular, instance-by-instance approach.

What are you talking about?

An organized, grassroots movement that employed questionable means to force the wisest decision upon leadership and everyone else.

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- alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  That wouldn’t be thematically consistent with their years of telling others what they’d like to hear for their entertainment.
  
  What?
  
  There was never formal consensus in that leadership repeatedly denied the vote, favoring a granular, instance-by-instance approach.
  
  Here’s the vote that approved the granular instance-by-instance approach
  
  An organized, grassroots movement that employed questionable means to force the wisest decision upon leadership and everyone else.
  
  Are you describing the consensus building and struggle sessions as forcing the wisest decision on everyone?
  
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  - SirDerpy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Here’s the vote that approved the granular instance-by-instance approach
    
    And then what happened? It seems like you were present for awhile but perhaps not in the trenches, through the OpSec, and to the end.
    
    What?
    
    Indeed.
    
    Are you describing the consensus building and struggle sessions as “forcing the wisest decision on everyone”?
    
    Q: Why did hexbear brigade the fediverse?
    
    A: Certainly for the lulz. /s
    
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    alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    And then what happened?
    
    People nominated instances here and when/if people had concerns, there’d be a megathread discussing/voting on defederation.
    
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