There’s definitely some users there who go too far in their support for other imperialist superpowers like Russia and China.
Because if America bad Russia and China good is an easy train of thought. Imperialism bad is a more difficult pill to accept.
But users there moreso question whether certain atrocities happened. They’re not saying ‘yeah the CCP is currently Genociding Uyghurs in concentration camps. but you have to vote for Xi Jingping to save Democracy’.
Occasionally I do find they have a point in the West exaggerating others crimes. I mostly started noticing this after Hamas supposedly beheaded 40 babies in ovens which our media blasted as fact without questioning it. Though other times there is usually a base of truth which is undeniable.
But admitting that your side is doing Genocide and still advocating for them comes off as far more insane to me than denying their crimes.
their support for other imperialist superpowers like Russia and China
I wonder what definition of imperialism you’re using. China doesn’t have a financial capitalist class which influences it’s government to seek foreign markets (i.e. overthrow foreign governments to privatize their state assets for the financial capitalist class to buy up)
Because if America bad Russia and China good is an easy train of thought.
It may seem to lib outside observers like that
But users there moreso question whether certain atrocities happened. They’re not saying ‘yeah the CCP is currently Genociding Uyghurs in concentration camps. but you have to vote for Xi Jingping to save Democracy’.
Tell me you haven’t lurked there without having told me you having lurked there and talking out of your ass.
China most definitely has billionaires in cahoots with the government. Evergrande is a great example of this. Asianometry did a great video on how deep it goes with receipts.
I’ve had two discussions with ml users about the Uyghur camps which were not able to address the base of my concerns. While they are definitely very exaggerated in size, the notion that they don’t exist seems unfounded.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There’s definitely some users there who go too far in their support for other imperialist superpowers like Russia and China.
Because if America bad Russia and China good is an easy train of thought. Imperialism bad is a more difficult pill to accept.
But users there moreso question whether certain atrocities happened. They’re not saying ‘yeah the CCP is currently Genociding Uyghurs in concentration camps. but you have to vote for Xi Jingping to save Democracy’.
Occasionally I do find they have a point in the West exaggerating others crimes. I mostly started noticing this after Hamas supposedly beheaded 40 babies in ovens which our media blasted as fact without questioning it. Though other times there is usually a base of truth which is undeniable.
But admitting that your side is doing Genocide and still advocating for them comes off as far more insane to me than denying their crimes.
carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
I wonder what definition of imperialism you’re using. China doesn’t have a financial capitalist class which influences it’s government to seek foreign markets (i.e. overthrow foreign governments to privatize their state assets for the financial capitalist class to buy up)
It may seem to lib outside observers like that
Tell me you haven’t lurked there without having told me you having lurked there and talking out of your ass.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
China most definitely has billionaires in cahoots with the government. Evergrande is a great example of this. Asianometry did a great video on how deep it goes with receipts.
I’ve had two discussions with ml users about the Uyghur camps which were not able to address the base of my concerns. While they are definitely very exaggerated in size, the notion that they don’t exist seems unfounded.
carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Imperialism is when billionaires. The more billionaires you have the imperialister it is
Also redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/
Sounds like you were concern trolling, because the burden of proof is on the accuser