Where are you getting this? Also NPR is center-right, they havent been on “the left” for a good while
Have you ever met a liberal though? Two sides of the same coin.
storksforlegs@beehaw.org 2 months ago
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Literally the only thing this guy posts is “but whatabout zionists”
Endlessly, no matter how irrelevant
psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
“Liberal” doesn’t mean what many people think it means.
It doesn’t mean “leftist” or “progressive” or “humane”. There might be some overlap, but these are not the same things, despite conservatives trying to define them as such.
endofline@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The same you could say with “conversative” term meaning. In the original meaning it was “not willing changes” not “far right radical” whatever it means ( right now it’s considered to have conservative people in that group by left wing people )
WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Curious comment, so I looked at Wikipedia’s Liberalism in the United States. Still not sure what you’re suggesting.
Could you elaborate?
anlumo@feddit.org 2 months ago
Liberals are pro free market and capitalism. Leftists are pro social programs and taxing the rich.
WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 2 months ago
Thanks! It sounds like “liberal” in this thread is what I’ve always called neoliberal, and “leftist” is what’s known as democratic socialism?
pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 months ago
that’s only partly true:
economically liberal indeed means free markets and capitalism (this is why the australian conservative party is called the Liberal party)
however liberalism as a whole includes individual rights like human and civil rights, secularism, etc (this is what the US tends to define as liberal)
it’s an overloaded and imperfect term for our current global political cultures
similar applies to left and right wing:
the left are supporters of change and generally change that supports less fortunate and leads to less social hierarchy
what both these things have in common is that liberal and left wing are about change and new ideas, whilst conservative and right wing are about maintaining the status quo (or as is more currently the case, regressing to a previous status quo)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics