The Gold Star families asked him to lay a wreath, which he did. He did not violate any laws. The Hatch Act is for federal employees, which Trump is not.
The only reason this made the news is an employee overstepped their authority and tried to block a Gold Star family from laying a wreath on their child’s grave. The person should be terminated.
This policy
supersedes the Media Policy for Arlington National Cemetery (ANC) and the Soldiers’
and Airmen’s Home National Cemetery (SAHNC)
The ANC is irrelevant in this case.
Filming or photographing will not be permitted if it conveys the impression that
cemetery officials or any visitor or family member is endorsing any product, service or
organization.
Firstly, it doesn’t seem that Trump violated what you cited, since he took no pictures, nor is there proof that he ordered anyone else to take any pictures. Secondly, it’d take a narrow interpretation of the pictures to presume that they’re meant to endorse Trump himself, any more than images of Joe Biden earlier this year were meant to endorse Joe Biden’s campaign (www.upi.com/Top_News/US/Photos/…/14636/). Families like having pictures of an authority figure paying respects to their fallen loved ones. They reached out to Biden and Kamala Harris first, after all, which doesn’t seem to me like they were aiming to exactly join Trump’s campaign.
Sure…I bet you’re well versed in the legal universe…somehow. Riiiiigght.
So if you want to really break it down, then your defense here is that Trump is just ignorant to the law…okay, sure. You’d also be making the case that if he didn’t directly do anything actionable against the law, then he can’t be doing anything illegal. THEN you’re going down the rabbit hole of “Oh, they just told me to stand here and do this and that, I had no idea.” So that’s where you’re leaving that.
EXCEPT, you’re ignoring the fact they were TOLD BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ANC THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED IN. Then they started a physical altercation and assaulted that person. He was informed they were not allowed on the premises. There is no ignorance to what was what happening at that point. If you’re backup is that his campaign managers didn’t tell him, then you’re also wrong, because they are expected to be acting on Trump’s behalf in representing the campaign, which the law specifically covers as well.
You have no argument here.
Then your trying to something about Biden or whomever else also having pictures there… that’s not the law. Read it again. It doesn’t say “there is absolutely no photo/video to be taken at ANC”. If an acting President is there for a pre-planned ceremony and are expected to be there in an official capacity, the press is allowed in to take photo and video. Thems the facts. It’s at the discretion of cemetery officials to say who can and can’t take photo/video.
They told Trump or his people to GTFO, they assaulted the staff, then went and did it anyway. The family has no say in this.
So not only did he commit one crime, he committed MULTIPLE crimes.
Dafuq outta here with your attempts to justify this.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 months ago
web.archive.org/web/…/ANC-media-policy.pdf
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 months ago
He laid a wreath. So the law wasn’t violated and the hatch act is a joke.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“Laws for thee, but NOT FOR ME!”
This is the type of POS you want running a country. Nice.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The Gold Star families asked him to lay a wreath, which he did. He did not violate any laws. The Hatch Act is for federal employees, which Trump is not. The only reason this made the news is an employee overstepped their authority and tried to block a Gold Star family from laying a wreath on their child’s grave. The person should be terminated.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
The ANC is irrelevant in this case.
Firstly, it doesn’t seem that Trump violated what you cited, since he took no pictures, nor is there proof that he ordered anyone else to take any pictures. Secondly, it’d take a narrow interpretation of the pictures to presume that they’re meant to endorse Trump himself, any more than images of Joe Biden earlier this year were meant to endorse Joe Biden’s campaign (www.upi.com/Top_News/US/Photos/…/14636/). Families like having pictures of an authority figure paying respects to their fallen loved ones. They reached out to Biden and Kamala Harris first, after all, which doesn’t seem to me like they were aiming to exactly join Trump’s campaign.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sure…I bet you’re well versed in the legal universe…somehow. Riiiiigght.
So if you want to really break it down, then your defense here is that Trump is just ignorant to the law…okay, sure. You’d also be making the case that if he didn’t directly do anything actionable against the law, then he can’t be doing anything illegal. THEN you’re going down the rabbit hole of “Oh, they just told me to stand here and do this and that, I had no idea.” So that’s where you’re leaving that.
EXCEPT, you’re ignoring the fact they were TOLD BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ANC THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED IN. Then they started a physical altercation and assaulted that person. He was informed they were not allowed on the premises. There is no ignorance to what was what happening at that point. If you’re backup is that his campaign managers didn’t tell him, then you’re also wrong, because they are expected to be acting on Trump’s behalf in representing the campaign, which the law specifically covers as well.
You have no argument here.
Then your trying to something about Biden or whomever else also having pictures there… that’s not the law. Read it again. It doesn’t say “there is absolutely no photo/video to be taken at ANC”. If an acting President is there for a pre-planned ceremony and are expected to be there in an official capacity, the press is allowed in to take photo and video. Thems the facts. It’s at the discretion of cemetery officials to say who can and can’t take photo/video.
They told Trump or his people to GTFO, they assaulted the staff, then went and did it anyway. The family has no say in this.
So not only did he commit one crime, he committed MULTIPLE crimes.
Dafuq outta here with your attempts to justify this.