Comment on Why I Haven't Seen Any Trump Supporters In Fediverse (Lemmy and Mastodon)?

• skeezix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Have you stopped to consider that labelling someone as the “enemy” is parlance mostly engaged in by conservatives? Progressives don’t usually think in those terms. To a progressive, you might be ignorant, misinformed, misguided, deluded, xenophobic, racist, or engaging in bad faith, but you are rarely the “enemy.” Even Trump himself although perhaps though of as an “enemy of democracy,” is not a personal enemy. Your response using that metaphor serves to highlight the conservative mind set of making it personal, and harboring an anger so deep that political disagreement is grounds for personal animosity and even violence.

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  • FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some people cause so much harm that, fuck it, they’re enemies. It doesn’t matter that Adolf McHitlerface had a terrible childhood. Overwhelming violence was a legitimate mean to put an end to his action.

    You won’t be able to fix everyone, and not everybody with a terrible life becomes a fascist.

    Trump doesn’t care that you have an open mind and are willing to try to change him. Give him the chance, and he’ll let you know what he thinks of your good nature.

    I’m not dehumanizing him. He’s not the antichrist. He’s in fact terribly human. But not all humans deserve rehabilitation, especially when they’re actively causing harm. When a terrorist shoots people at a concert, it’s absolutely OK to kill them to prevent innocent deaths.

    It’s OK to take a stance, sometimes. And you don’t always need to be very civil about it.

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  • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like how you’re so high up on your horse that not only does is your team too good to have enemies, you can doublethink away any use of the term as impersonal.

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    • Communist_Synthesizer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The US had a 2x mortality rate than Canada. 6x higher compared to South Korea, 10x of Japan the first two years of Covid. Even going with the lowest number, about 500,000 Americans could have survived with even marginally competent leadership. One that might not have…

      1. Disbanded the Pandemic response team Obama set up.
      2. Undercut the messaging from the CDC because Trump couldn’t handle Fauci having a higher approval rating than him.
      3. Spewed constant misinformation about everything from bleach, sunlight to ivermectin while professionals were desperately trying to do their job.
      4. Intentionally dragging his feet on the relief effort because someone told him that it was hitting the cities first and the Democrats would be most affected.
      5. Goddamn masks. All he had to do was go on TV and tell his little cultists to wear the damn things, and we could have prevented so much of the deaths that came from the original strain/Delta. (Not Omicron)

      Hitler killed less Americans than Trump did.

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      • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The “disbanding” of the pandemic response team is largely misrepresented. I don’t disagree with the rest, or see how it’s at all relevant to the current conversation at all.

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