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TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

yikes, OP wasn’t calling this secondary any more than Simone de Beauvoir was when she published The Second Sex… it’s an actual problem that deserves recognition, and shitting on someone for recognizing it? you’re the one reinforcing the problem now!!

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JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As you can see from OP’s response to you, my primary issue is that OP is still calling the option the “female” or “feminine” one. The developers specifically removed those labels to be inclusive and OP is adding them back. The complaint about the order was the secondary issue.

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- TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Oh come on, now you’re just feigning ignorance. Just because you take away the names doesn’t mean the dimorphic traits are absent. It’s a dimorphic character creation system. And the body types correspond to both modes of human sexual dimorphic presentations. And OP is taking issue with not just the veiled binary but also the hierarchy within it.
  
  Let me put it this way. Imagine if the body types were no longer sexually dimorphic but had varied skin tones. And despite the fact that we know skin tones present in a variety of ways, they only offered light peach skin tones and dark skin tones. And they made the secondary one the darker skin tone. Maybe you or I would have a problem with it, maybe we wouldn’t. But could you understand why someone might take issue with that? It’s a fair objection to make, whether we can conceive of a solution or not.
  
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  - JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I said the developers removed the labels to be more inclusive and OP (and now you) added them back.
    
    There are technical reasons (pointed out in many comments) for why they might not have full sliders to make any body type you want.
    
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HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Exactly.

I’m not saying that women are inferior or that anyone with tits is a woman… I’m saying that by labeling the feminine option as the “B-Grade” option instead of just the “Feminine” option there is an uncomfortably misogynistic implication that needs addressing.

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