Comment on Why are vegan and gluten free items more expensive?

lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Neither vegan nor gluten free food is “healthier” than other food. It’s a question of scale and target demographic.

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  • spacesatan@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Red meat and processed meat are classed as carcinogenic and have plenty of LDL cholesterol. Its not that hard to be healthier than that.

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    • UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But now you’re cherry picking food. Fish and chicken is good and healthy food, why didn’t mention those instead. Pure sugar is both vegan and gluten free, but you wouldn’t call that healthy would you?

      There is nothing unhealthy about gluten if your body can tolerate it. So vegan, gluten free and the opposite are all perfectly valid options for a healthy diet. You could also have an unhealthy diet within those 3 categories as well.

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      • spacesatan@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        from the OP

        a pack of vegan burgers, these are more expensive than regular burgers!

        I don’t think they meant fish burgers when they said regular burgers.

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  beans and onions are famously difficult to grow and transport, yes.

  we live in a time where with the magic of freezers we can literally make bags of mostly nutritionally complete food that can be kept frozen for at least a year without any loss of quality, and then you can just toss that in a frying pan when you want to eat it. Healthy food isn’t a luxury, it’s quite cheap and easy and everyone would have access to it if it weren’t for a small amount of abjectly evil people actively preventing it.

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  • lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Frozen food is less nutritious than fresh food. And maintaining it frozen at the required level needed to maintain the minimum of nutrition is expensive, both during distribution and storage. If the company even bothers to respect that.

    By the time those frozen veggies reach your freezer for you to keep them up to a year, their nutritional value might be so low you’d be better off eating cardboard.

    Adbot please! Scientists can’t figure out how to keep ice crystals from fucking shit up at the genetic level in industry-specific cryogenic pods and you expect me to believe a Walmart level freezer can keep food fresh and unspoiled after they imported it from halfway across the world?

    Just… go away.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      for the record, all of this is utter and complete nonsense and you are out of your mind, just so no one reads this and takes it seriously.

      Modern flash freezing is basically magic that suspends time, you lose maybe 1% of nutrients and even extremely fragile stuff like berries don’t lose much quality so long as you don’t thaw and re-freeze them.

      www.fsis.usda.gov/…/freezing-and-food-safety

      here’s an article from the USDA explicitly stating that freezing doesn’t destroy nutrients.

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      • lath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lies! It’s all lies! Don’t believe the magic-touting adbot! They’re just a freezer shill!

        My mistake about nutrients in frozen fresh food. Everything else though, just your average adbot lies.

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