Comment on Gypsies Vanner

Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_horse

  It’s the name of the breed of this horse.

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  • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I did edit the title. My phone turned gypsy into gypsies and I didn’t notice right away lol

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    also known as Romani Cob

    And the Romani (and g*psy) both refer to the Romani people, so even in this context it’s a slur

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    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree that Gypsy is a slur, when used to denigrate migrating groups of people or poor foreign looking people, especially when the group who are being insulted with the word are not connected to Romanichal people at all.

      However, both this and Romani used in this specific context, as you can tell from the History section, are specifically linked to identify this breed of horse, historically used by this sect of people. As such, there are cases where using this term is appropriate, unless there’s been some other euphemism in use that has made the words Gypsy and Romani archaic, as is the case with some other slurs.

      You’re welcome to censor yourself and not use this word which in some contexts is a slur. To me, language is quite flexible, and so words mean anything that parties to a conversation understand them to mean, through the combination of verbal, non-verbal and contextual signals.

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• LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Phone autocorrected Gypsy to gypsies. Fixed the title. The horse breed is called a Gypsy Vanner, though. Idk why.

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  • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Gotchya.

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    IIRC it’s because it was a breed originally cultivated by the Roma.

    I think there’s a push among some folks to get a name change on the books, not even to a name based on Roma, it was something else entirely I think related to the moustache

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• Cadeillac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Genuine question and I learned a lot from you asking it

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