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You guys seem to give Muslims a pass when massacre Jews by the thousands, hell completely ignoring it in most cases, and then believe everything Hamas says about the IDF.

I mean honestly, you guys could at least dog whistle your Nazism

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Do you also have stories about how Russians colonizing Ukraine are actually victims of ethnic cleansing?

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- Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No, I don’t. Why would I?
  
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  - Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    A large percentage of Ukrainians outside of occupied Crimea are Ukrainian. And a large percentage of people on occupied Crimea are Russians.
    
    You are suggesting the Ukrainians ethnically cleansed all those Russians out of Ukraine onto occupied Crimea right?
    
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qaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There is a significant difference in terms of the amount of deaths. A focus on one over the other is very understandable, and using it as a reason for an accusation of Nazism is reductive at best.

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Deaths 39,677* 1,478

*Although the Gaza Health Ministry numbers do not distinguish deaths among combatants and noncombatants, 68.1% (27,020) of casualties were children, women, or elders and therefore likely non-combatants according to The Lancet.

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Source: United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

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- Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The Gaza Health Ministry is literally run by Hamas.
  
  And the UNOCHA is straight up lying. They claim only 23 Israeli fatalities in 2023 when the Oct 7th massacre alone killed 1,139 people, 695 of whom were Israeli Citizens (Not just Jews). This is not counting any of the attacks before or after Oct 7th, this is just the Oct 7th massacre alone.
  
  Hopefully you can see that this is just propaganda, right?
  
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  - qaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    The Gaza Health Ministry is literally run by Hamas.
    
    I am aware of that, but HRW confirmed these numbers and so did many other organizations.
    
    And the UNOCHA is straight up lying. They claim only 23 Israeli fatalities in 2023 when the Oct 7th massacre alone killed 1,139 people, 695 of whom were Israeli Citizens (Not just Jews). This is not counting any of the attacks before or after Oct 7th, this is just the Oct 7th massacre alone.
    
    I’m not sure how you missed it, but the source clearly states that casualties of the ongoing conflict are not included because they’re not yet independently verified. Excerpt:
    
    Casualties in the context of the ongoing hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel, which started on 7 October 2023, will only be added to this page once these incidents have been independently verified. Until then, reported figures on those are included in our Flash Updates and Snapshots. By contrast, data on casualties in the West Bank and Israel in other contexts is updated regularly beyond 7 October 2023.
    
    Hopefully you can see that this is just propaganda, right?
    
    I hope you realize it doesn’t just come from one side
    
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